friendlyskies wrote:The individual mandate is fascist bullshit.
Delurking just to say: I bet you still vote for Obama, hah!
Tarkan! Lovely to see you. Well, it was Romney who thought of the individual mandate, and Romney that originally passed it on a statewide scale - without all the good stuff in ObamaCare, eg, allowing people with pre-existing conditions to purchase health care. The fact that it's fascist bullshit does little to recommend the Chicano Mormon.
What gets me excited about voting for Obama is that Romney's main contributors are the Koch Brothers (who have offered to pony up $400 million to get Obama out of the White House) that human trafficker casino guy who was backing Newt (who has pledged $100 million), and Dick Cheney (who just hosted a Romney fund raiser), which is creepy as shit - Romney can already outspend Obama 5:1 just based on three exceptionally evil campaign contributors. Thanks to Citizens United. So, yeah, if evil fascists are willing to spend that kind of money to defeat ol' Hopey, well, that's the highest recommendation for Obama I've heard in the past four years. If Obama was sufficiently evil, people like that would let him win without spending their money. But they're not - they're spending more to defeat Obama than on any other election in the history of the world.
So, yeah, I would have thought about voting for Johnson if Romney wasn't being backed like that, but he is. So I'll be voting Obama, and switching my ballot to a swing state since Tennessee will likely vote for a non-Christian for the first time in recent history, by a landslide, because it's not a black. lol.
RYP wrote:Do the math. What happens when a finite number of medical providers now must service a vastly larger group of customers?
Look, we the uninsured already get socialized health care. Thanks to Ronald "El Che" Reagan, every person in the USA - citizen, resident, illegal alien, whoever - gets free medical care from a county hospital via the emergency room. We also pay cash for other care.
What changes is that now we'll have to buy insurance, not the number of actual illnesses. We get those no matter what. But now we'll have access to more pharmaceuticals for things like insomnia and restless leg syndrome, many of which cause side effects requiring more pharmaceuticals. So the pharmaceutical companies will make a boatload more money and the USA will get sicker. But those are just pills - they don't take a huge amount of time to prescribe, since they aren't really for illnesses anyway - it's not like we'll be fixing more broken legs and gunshot wounds, those were going to get fixed by someone anyway.