nasty insurgency in the heart of Europe

[Q]

So many interesting sidebars on this whole invasion.

In no particular order:

1) The West is always so racist and awful, but given half a chance, the third world will fucking kill themselves trying to get there.

2) If this was a White migration, it would no doubt be "colonialism" and whatever euphemism the anti White left could drag out. You know, Whitey taking over. Stealing resources. Blah blah blah.

3) Third World and/or ethnic resistance to colonization is right and just, but let Europeans do it, and it's racism/xenophobia.


Hier marschiert der nationale Widerstand

[Kurt]

So many interesting sidebars on this whole invasion.

In no particular order:

1) The West is always so racist and awful, but given half a chance, the third world will fucking kill themselves trying to get there.

2) If this was a White migration, it would no doubt be "colonialism" and whatever euphemism the anti White left could drag out. You know, Whitey taking over. Stealing resources. Blah blah blah.

3) Third World and/or ethnic resistance to colonization is right and just, but let Europeans do it, and it's racism/xenophobia.


Hier marschiert der nationale Widerstand

Also, as I have stated before in this thread, the ones who are always expected to sacrifice for the ideals of others is women, homosexuals and native born minorities since it is always taken for granted that women, homosexuals and other minorities will always support progressive idealism, even at a cost to themselves. Taking these people in is a risk to that real and certain progress. In the last 30 years we have went from gays and lesbians on the kinky sexual fringe to being boring suburbans pushing baby carriages with cute little chinese girls inside, and thats fantastic...but no way Johnny Migrant is gonna put up with that or pouty scantilly clad college students with 4 beers in them waiting for a bus alone.

But, worse than letting them in is letting them in and treating them like shit. So if you do got muslim migrants too chickenshit to fight ISIS fleeing the war, treat them decent (but boot them out for getting weird with women or gays) or they will get worse and Europe will get double-worse.

Another thing about women always bearing the brunt of things and progressives in the west thinking "just fucking deal with it already, it could be worse" is Gloria Steinem dismissing women's right to choose a Democratic nominee by claiming women (or girls as she calls them) just support Bernie Sanders to be around men (or boys as she calls them). So the #1` feminist icon in the USA dismisses women's political franchise as being akin to following a boy band at age 13.

Meanwhile closet Homosexual Roosh V. (c'mon, lives with his mom, hates women and wants to re-define masculinity...doesn't get any gayer than that..except when you dismiss homosexuality as an aberation...which he does as well. So he is super-ultra gay) pretty much says the same thing; women are incapable of making choices on their own and they follow men. He adds a "oh yah, make Rape legal on private property" part but people who would love to have Steinem come visit and lecture us on how to behave are the same one's advocating Roosh V's banning from countries.

[frostyneutron]

Few people are racist. Those labeled as such are generally against a culture, rather than a race. Why aren't "anti-gook" hate groups and rhetoric as prolific as anti-black/hispanic groups and rhetoric? Not to say the hate isn't there, but it's certainly on a different order of magnitude. It's not about the race, but about the predominate culture that race is seen to represent.

Culture that wipes its butt with its hand is inferior. It is less conducive to the aims of our "progressive" countries. It spreads disease at greater rates. Cultures in which it is ok to rape boys (women are for babies, boys are for pleasure), are inferior. Since I think many of you have deployed, I think you know what I'm talking about, and have probably seen some sick examples of this. Enough examples to know that "isolated incident" doesn't fit. Raping boys is a part of some cultures, on an intolerable (though not total, of course) scale.

We can be certain that the immigrating cultures' primary goal is not assimilation. Why should it be, when our effeminate culture despises solidarity (this hate is misrepresented as 'diversity', though only certain groups are 'diverse' in the minds of those proponents). Why should nations that spent years of cultural evolution turning into something relatively productive, healthy, and comfortable, bear the burden of those that have not? Assimilate *naturally* (and that is the key word), and they can learn. Assimilate forcefully, and they will not. The difference is a matter of how, under what conditions, and at what rate assimilation takes place.

Again, if someone will assimilate, then I welcome them. In the meantime, I do believe the fat-ass west has an obligation to help. We spend far too much on getting obese, playing video games, and shit like that to simply ignore starving, terrified people. But to be fair, America has already spent far more than every other nations on this refugee crisis (in terms of funding).

[coldharvest]

[frostyneutron]

Use your words silly

[MJK]

Frosty -The Nubian pyramids were built back when Rome was two kids sucking wolf tittie. They look more worn than Rome's ruins as marble was a little hard to come by in Egypt. The fact that the works of Rome are now and have for some time been relics rather than useful structures while the grass hut will be the very sustainable gold standard in Africa a thousand years from now is probably lost on you.

I wonder what the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel would look like if Michaelangelo had river blindness or Trachoma.

[frostyneutron]

Frosty -The Nubian pyramids were built back when Rome was two kids sucking wolf tittie. They look more worn than Rome's ruins as marble was a little hard to come by in Egypt. The fact that the works of Rome are now and have for some time been relics rather than useful structures while the grass hut will be the very sustainable gold standard in Africa a thousand years from now is probably lost on you.

I wonder what the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel would look like if Michaelangelo had river blindness or Trachoma.

You're right! Did you read my post, and not just look at the picture?

[Q]

Kurt,


I'm inclined to agree with you, to a point.

In this particular instance, it's the Warrior class that is expected to sacrifice for the politically correct, who are rapidly finding themselves the targets of the very population they've spent decades defending against the former.


That evil, straight White male with a firearm. The supposed xian fanatic who wants to chop off their clit, wrap them in a sheet and keep them from voting.

Only, the threat was never really that guy.

Now, there is no denying the fact who the real enemy of the West, and civilization is.


Question is, why should that hated and vilified WWarrior class bother protecting the scum who his now trying to find safety behind his shield?


"....Without a peep. Soon the government moves in, decides it will have to ration bread. Like the good old days, isn’t it! There’s none to be had, but under the counter you can get all you want ... Yes, France has come back to normal. Come to terms with herself. And what’s more, with her police. Now that she needs them—and needs them in a hurry-doubled up with that time-honored gnawing in the gut. Scared witless (or worse) ... Terror on the highways. Shakedowns left and right, kidnappings, ransoms. This one’s daughter, abducted (“Corporal, let me lick your boots ...”). This one’s bride, hardly paid for, carried off by some gang (“Sergeant, let me kiss your ass ...”), whisked off by young toughs, like the rugged, handsome kind in the movies, and the whole scene out of a porno- shop film, free for the paying. This one, held up at gunpoint, robbed of his wallet, with all of his papers (“Captain, let me slobber on your big, hairy hands ... I repent! I repent!”). Oh, the great rush policeward! Blessed minions of the law! (“No one’s safe anymore. Only you can protect us. Only strong, smart policemen, who want to do their duty. Open up, let us in. How about a cigar. Here, these are the best ...”) And suddenly the station houses, headquarters, barracks—all yesterday’s “pigpens,” remember?—loom up to the poor fleeced lamb like remote medieval monasteries, secure and inviolate. The anti-epic, in all its glory! Time was, the people used to huddle in their churches, while the nasty old seigneur sent his surging tide of knighthood breaking over the lofty château walls. Today it’s the knights who are manning the ramparts, defending the refuge, while outside, the men of the cloth, with their latter- day saints, bay like wolves on the prowl. But the knights aren’t the same. The spring inside has snapped. Even in difficult times like these, you can’t take a bunch of broken puppets and turn them back into policemen just by waving a magic wand. Punch has come out on top. And the little children clap, loud and hard as they can. But if someone comes up and steals their lollipops after the show, it will serve the brats right! You can’t clap then complain. You can’t sneer then come begging. The knights take a certain snide pleasure in their revenge. “Well, we can’t keep you out,” they answer, standing at the doors of their secular sanctums, clouded in gloom, “but don’t count on us. You should have thought of that before!” Revenge is a tasty dish, even served cold. The police lick their chops with a kind of gross delight. A few of them spit at the poor, harried beggars. (“Sergeant, let me lick your boots ...” “And let me spit in your goddamn eye!” Ah! Delightful exchange! ...) "

[Tarkan]

Damn phone

[friendlyskies]

I suppose you warrior-class guys could be right, and it's just going to be war after war between the barbarians and the warriors forever, and anyone who thinks otherwise—these people who devote their time to the arts, sciences, businesses, and other non-warrior, non-barbarian professions—are just wasting their time.

Could be. Maybe this whole civilization thing was a dumb experiment to begin with, and won't end well. Honestly, you all are probably right. Europe could solve this whole refugee situation just by rounding up the Muslims and deporting or killing them, I guess. But at this point, we've invested, what, 12,000 years in this game? More, depending on how you define civilization? It seems a bit silly to throw in the towel now, right when we've figured out the Internet, space travel, and GMO food. Why hand it back to the barbarians now? If they win, they win, sucks. But liberalism and civilization are having a pretty good run, who knows, it might pan out into something more interesting than just grunting menacingly and shaking our dicks at each over the waterhole 24/7. I think we should give it a try.

[Kurt]

I suppose you warrior-class guys could be right, and it's just going to be war after war between the barbarians and the warriors forever, and anyone who thinks otherwise—these people who devote their time to the arts, sciences, businesses, and other non-warrior, non-barbarian professions—are just wasting their time.

Could be. Maybe this whole civilization thing was a dumb experiment to begin with, and won't end well. Honestly, you all are probably right. Europe could solve this whole refugee situation just by rounding up the Muslims and deporting or killing them, I guess. But at this point, we've invested, what, 12,000 years in this game? More, depending on how you define civilization? It seems a bit silly to throw in the towel now, right when we've figured out the Internet, space travel, and GMO food. Why hand it back to the barbarians now? If they win, they win, sucks. But liberalism and civilization are having a pretty good run, who knows, it might pan out into something more interesting than just grunting menacingly and shaking our dicks at each over the waterhole 24/7. I think we should give it a try.

I agree. But, what is dickish and brutal about not letting people in just because they happen to show up? With the ease of global travel now just showing up anywhere is a good possibility. Even more cruel is saying "We are going to help you" and then get people coming from their local crap place to a better place only to be treated like crap because too many of you showed up because you would not have showed up unless someone said it was ok to do so.

A big problem with the world is everyone is basically a communist. Its not our fault, we were told communism was either true and good or either true or bad. That is why you had two of the America's greatest dipshits, Ronald Reagan and Che Guevara believing the same thing..that the wealth of the west was drained from elsewhere (Reagan believed US Wealth came from Central and South America and thought it was good and Che Guevara believed the same thing and thought it was bad. So you get people who believe that wealth flows west and poverty fills the void. So the people in the west want to help even this and the people from elswhere want to come take what is theirs.

But the real cause of wealth is freedom and laws of ownership. Both are the product of western liberalism and a sudden flood of people with a high birthrate into countries with a low birthrate is going to jeopardize this. As a middle aged American white dude I am not going to suffer because of this. But some 10 year old girl growing up in Calais is going to have a very different experience going out at night when she is a teenager or young woman than her mother did 20 or 30 years before.

Giving to other people is fine. We just have to make sure they do not want us to give up what we worked hard for as the price of being able to give it to them. Nothing wrong or barbaric at all to make certain a government assigned to protect the rights of people within a physical territory can do this before helping those who want to enter it.

[Q]

QED.


Warrior class is nothing but a pack of unintelligent brutes.

[frostyneutron]

I suppose you warrior-class guys could be right, and it's just going to be war after war between the barbarians and the warriors forever, and anyone who thinks otherwise—these people who devote their time to the arts, sciences, businesses, and other non-warrior, non-barbarian professions—are just wasting their time.

Could be. Maybe this whole civilization thing was a dumb experiment to begin with, and won't end well. Honestly, you all are probably right. Europe could solve this whole refugee situation just by rounding up the Muslims and deporting or killing them, I guess. But at this point, we've invested, what, 12,000 years in this game? More, depending on how you define civilization? It seems a bit silly to throw in the towel now, right when we've figured out the Internet, space travel, and GMO food. Why hand it back to the barbarians now? If they win, they win, sucks. But liberalism and civilization are having a pretty good run, who knows, it might pan out into something more interesting than just grunting menacingly and shaking our dicks at each over the waterhole 24/7. I think we should give it a try.

Can the world eventually figure out how to live in unity? Given enough time, yeah. The progress of man in arts, science, and so on took lots and lots of time as well. The world won't end if we open the floodgates and saturate the US and Europe with refugees. But it might have a profound near-term (as in, hundreds of years) impact on the countries accepting the refugees. Governments and societies are protecting themselves and aren't interested in 1000 years down the road, which is understandable.

The soft people who complain and throw around words like "xenophobia" when talking about the refugee crisis will be pretty surprised when their standard of living changes because of the results of their wishes. Shit, the governments and economies of Europe and the US are tumultuous enough as it is. These people are going to cry when they can't sit around watching DVDs all day because their society has degraded to a point that people have to actually perform work instead of just sitting in an office chair looking at facebook for 8 hours, put bars on their windows to avoid having their macbook stolen, and keep an eye on their back when they walk down the street due to fear of rape.

[coldharvest]

Can the world eventually figure out how to live in unity?

fuck off back to your drum-circle

[snaark]

Jesus titty fucking christ, this thread is still going. And now featuring a new flock of uninformed deadshits prognosticating about the end of Europe. Meanwhile I'm happy to report I still haven't been raped and/or killed. Not even once.