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Darcy wrote:I know its quasi-evil, but the cats I work with have had numerous Haiti contracts when the UN was there, trying their best to do good (I honestly think) but fucking things up. I kinda hope the latest news gets us back in. I prefer warmer climates.
Darcy wrote:Damn. The aircrew I know working those UN contracts only spoke about keeping their heads down, I’ve often heard of abuses, and often of them being ineffectual, but not as deteriorating a situation to that extent Well meaning in intent, at least. Other options to stabilize Haiti????
Kurt wrote:Darcy wrote:Damn. The aircrew I know working those UN contracts only spoke about keeping their heads down, I’ve often heard of abuses, and often of them being ineffectual, but not as deteriorating a situation to that extent Well meaning in intent, at least. Other options to stabilize Haiti????
When you talk to Haitian gang members they say "send aid, we will get it to the people" (meaning they will steal and sell it) when I was there not asingle bit of USAID cooking oil was given away but you could buy it in every market.
When I talked to regular people they all said "stop sending aid, send MINUSTAH home".
Before 1916 Haitis currency was backed by gold. Which FDR and Josephus Daniels siezed after the US invasion (Daniels formented a coup and then a massacre in Wilmington North Carolina of elected African Americans). They also ripped up Haitis rail and street cars so shipping would be dependent on US Military trucks and to limit the movement of people. So usually the worst stuff to happen to Haiti has been attempts to "help" it.
Weshould give back their gold and leave.
ROB wrote:Kurt wrote:Darcy wrote:Damn. The aircrew I know working those UN contracts only spoke about keeping their heads down, I’ve often heard of abuses, and often of them being ineffectual, but not as deteriorating a situation to that extent Well meaning in intent, at least. Other options to stabilize Haiti????
When you talk to Haitian gang members they say "send aid, we will get it to the people" (meaning they will steal and sell it) when I was there not asingle bit of USAID cooking oil was given away but you could buy it in every market.
When I talked to regular people they all said "stop sending aid, send MINUSTAH home".
Before 1916 Haitis currency was backed by gold. Which FDR and Josephus Daniels siezed after the US invasion (Daniels formented a coup and then a massacre in Wilmington North Carolina of elected African Americans). They also ripped up Haitis rail and street cars so shipping would be dependent on US Military trucks and to limit the movement of people. So usually the worst stuff to happen to Haiti has been attempts to "help" it.
Weshould give back their gold and leave.
Should give back their gold.
Shouldn't make a gold standard though.
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