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Kurt wrote:I knew it was not a homegrown white nut, as I suspect they would have never taken hostages. So I assumed it was homegrown Muslim nut or homegrown black Israelite type nut.
seektravelinfo wrote:Kurt wrote:I knew it was not a homegrown white nut, as I suspect they would have never taken hostages. So I assumed it was homegrown Muslim nut or homegrown black Israelite type nut.
That was their plan in Michigan, to take Governor Whitmer, though I guess that wouldn’t be a hostage scenario, as their plan was to try, convict and execute her. Same in Ohio, kidnapping & killing Governor DeWine for tyranny.
I’ve heard of people “disappearing”; people who are non-public officials that engage in grassroots activism for progressive causes. There are individuals and groups all over the country taking names. I don’t know if this is true. I hope that it’s not.
seektravelinfo wrote:Kurt wrote:I knew it was not a homegrown white nut, as I suspect they would have never taken hostages. So I assumed it was homegrown Muslim nut or homegrown black Israelite type nut.
That was their plan in Michigan, to take Governor Whitmer, though I guess that wouldn’t be a hostage scenario, as their plan was to try, convict and execute her. Same in Ohio, kidnapping & killing Governor DeWine for tyranny.
I’ve heard of people “disappearing”; people who are non-public officials that engage in grassroots activism for progressive causes. There are individuals and groups all over the country taking names. I don’t know if this is true. I hope that it’s not.
Kurt wrote:I knew it was not a homegrown white nut, as I suspect they would have never taken hostages. So I assumed it was homegrown Muslim nut or homegrown black Israelite type nut.
Never guessed it would be a traveling Brit Muslim nut.
The claim is he purchased his gun "on the street" ...maybe illegal guns are as easy to get in Texas as legal guns, but getting guns "on the street" in NYC is quite different. One usually has to know a supplier who gets them from a corrupt cop.
I was wondering if Texas cities have "Community Guns" like gangs in NYC have.
Here a whole gang may have 1 or 2 guns hidden somewhere to use if needed. If you watch the right people you could get a "free" gun (possibly tied to multiple shootings) so maybe Brit Terry found one of those.
Kurt wrote:seektravelinfo wrote:Kurt wrote:I knew it was not a homegrown white nut, as I suspect they would have never taken hostages. So I assumed it was homegrown Muslim nut or homegrown black Israelite type nut.
That was their plan in Michigan, to take Governor Whitmer, though I guess that wouldn’t be a hostage scenario, as their plan was to try, convict and execute her. Same in Ohio, kidnapping & killing Governor DeWine for tyranny.
I’ve heard of people “disappearing”; people who are non-public officials that engage in grassroots activism for progressive causes. There are individuals and groups all over the country taking names. I don’t know if this is true. I hope that it’s not.
My guess is the type of white nazi nuts who would go into a synagogue with a gun would just shoot and keep shooting.
The Whitmer case is likely going to go titsup since the Feds got the world's shittiest informant. ...but even the Feds worst informant, Whitey Bulger, still had all the cases stick even though the FBI and the informant were both bent in those cases.
Tarkan wrote:seektravelinfo wrote:Kurt wrote:I knew it was not a homegrown white nut, as I suspect they would have never taken hostages. So I assumed it was homegrown Muslim nut or homegrown black Israelite type nut.
That was their plan in Michigan, to take Governor Whitmer, though I guess that wouldn’t be a hostage scenario, as their plan was to try, convict and execute her. Same in Ohio, kidnapping & killing Governor DeWine for tyranny.
I’ve heard of people “disappearing”; people who are non-public officials that engage in grassroots activism for progressive causes. There are individuals and groups all over the country taking names. I don’t know if this is true. I hope that it’s not.
You mean the Michigan plot that had 7 FBI agents/informants and 5 patsies? I would love to know how much of that plot was generated by the 5 dupes being prosecuted vs being proposed and planned by the FBI folks.
Kurt wrote:I knew it was not a homegrown white nut, as I suspect they would have never taken hostages. So I assumed it was homegrown Muslim nut or homegrown black Israelite type nut.
Never guessed it would be a traveling Brit Muslim nut.
The claim is he purchased his gun "on the street" ...maybe illegal guns are as easy to get in Texas as legal guns, but getting guns "on the street" in NYC is quite different. One usually has to know a supplier who gets them from a corrupt cop.
I was wondering if Texas cities have "Community Guns" like gangs in NYC have.
Here a whole gang may have 1 or 2 guns hidden somewhere to use if needed. If you watch the right people you could get a "free" gun (possibly tied to multiple shootings) so maybe Brit Terry found one of those.
seektravelinfo wrote:Yawn. Whattaboutism is dead.
Tarkan wrote:Kurt, the reason why you don't have any intel on right wing threats is because the FBI is running those groups, and they'll trot out some conspiracy arrests when they need some positive media coverage and administration support.
Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:Kurt, the reason why you don't have any intel on right wing threats is because the FBI is running those groups, and they'll trot out some conspiracy arrests when they need some positive media coverage and administration support.
No they aren't.
Intelligence is based on past intelligence.
We focused on Muslims and Lefties and a bit of JDL on the side so we are taken aback when some other group does something.
Having seen this process for critical infrastructure protection first hand I can say with confidence that when something pops up, even like people marching right in front of your face the rank-and-file say "What do we do" and the admins consult playbooks and see that there is no playbook on this particular group or similar groups and then they say "They are not rated as a threat." When the Proud Boys marched through Grand Central the beat cops asked what to do and their playbook said "Watch out for the counter protesters"
I know because I analyzed this faulty response and we found that the reliance on intel rather than the reliance of what is right in front of your face and happening at that moment was the problem. Beat cops, Administrators and everyone agreed that was the issue.
If the FBI had been "running" them what likely would have happened was an FBI liaison would contact an MTAPD person and say "we are handling this".
That did not happen.
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