Tarkan wrote:Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:ROB wrote:It's not about enjoying your own life.
It's about making sure other people don't enjoy theirs.
Yep, you called it perfectly. Consequences of decision making is so patriarchal anyway.
What are the consequences you are talking about? Fucking = Pregnancy or Fucking = The State knows and may stop you at the border?
Well, fucking = state knows and may stop you at the border is theoretical at this point, but fucking without birth control may lead to pregnancy is not.
Theoretical as in proposed and advocated by some.
Now as far as consequences goes I would like to ask what is so great about consequences?
People either bareback it and get knocked up but some have condoms break and then the line is "well, you shouldn't be having sex, those are the consequences" or "you should also be on the pill" etc. etc.
But if it was really about consequences every car accident would just be a giant "fuck you for being on the road" So we try to mitigate consequences, even if we do something dumb.
Ever sprained your ankle in the woods? I have. Luckily I was able to limp out on my own but if not we have systems that mitigate the consequences of not looking where you step or wearing crappy shoes.
We mitigate the consequences of taking a crap by having plumbing and sewage treatment, we mitigate the consequences of staying up late with lighting and some places even have 24/7 public transportation to cart home drunks and people who work late shifts. Do we let cancer kill smokers or do we let liver disease kill drinkers? Newp, most of civilized society is mitigating consequences because consequences shorter our lives and make them shittier. They even make people's lives shittier who are not affected directly, like with better roads and crash safety systems on cars.
The whole consequences as being something people are legally enforced to comply with rotten. It will make someone's life crap and even promiscuous people who refuse to use birth control getting abortion after abortion will not hurt anyone.
but wait...they will hurt the little baby in her tummy!
Yep, that baby is fucked. No denying it. Some uteruses are basically meat grinders.
All smokers are idiots to the degree that smoking is really bad for you. I know cuz I was / am a smoking idiot who does not want to face any consequences for my behavior from age 18 to 44.
All drinkers are idiots and I have no intention of facing consequences from my boozing from age 17 to present.
All anti-vaxers are idiots and because I am vaxed I see no reason why they should not be forced to live with their choice and endure measels...but luckily sadistic Pro-Vax motherfuckers like me are not in charge of passing a law denying someone health care to face their consequences.
So you just gotta say "The Widdle Tummy Baby is more important that society as a whole's health care and women who fuck must always take giving birth as a consequence." Because that is what this ruling is.
Of course it can never be extended to our society's other consequence mitigation methods.