Tarkan wrote: Regardless, most of the scenarios short of an imbedded informant in the Trump camp
Rats sell out other rats all the time. Especially on sinking ships.
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Tarkan wrote: Regardless, most of the scenarios short of an imbedded informant in the Trump camp
el3so wrote:Trump is an old man and an ex-prez, he won't do time.Tarkan wrote: Regardless, most of the scenarios short of an imbedded informant in the Trump camp
Rats sell out other rats all the time. Especially on sinking ships.
vagabond wrote:el3so wrote:Trump is an old man and an ex-prez, he won't do time.Tarkan wrote: Regardless, most of the scenarios short of an imbedded informant in the Trump camp
Rats sell out other rats all the time. Especially on sinking ships.
Exactly. Occam's razor shit right here. All these people are scummy grifters that would sell their own mother (or country, in the case of Trump-Kushners) for a buck or to avoid jail. How many books came out of this White House before it even ended its term?
Tarkan - This dude's exit was probably as messy as his entrance and his rule. Take a loot at Michael Lewis's "The Fifth Risk" for a taste. They tried to put their sycophants / true believers in from top to bottom.
Trump, et al probably had an already large FBI file before he came into office. Jared was rejected for a top secret clearance. And, if these people really are or were selling state secrets, then I'm ok with them being surveilled by the FBI since that's kinda their job. Every other mook around here wouldn't have had a year and a half of the DOJ asking them nicely to return classified docs.
sparrow wrote:tldr;
Please let this trump nonsense come to an end.
Thank you
sparrow wrote:tldr;
Please let this trump nonsense come to an end.
Thank you
seektravelinfo wrote:sparrow wrote:tldr;
Please let this trump nonsense come to an end.
Thank you
Not gonna happen. The RNC is solidly behind him and gearing up for Trump 2024. I hope that Liz Cheney falls on her sword (again) and primaries him, which would force him into a televised debate with her at which he would be eviscerated. No matter to the die-hard Trump voters. They’ll still vote for him, but the machinations that Trump and the RNC would go through to avoid a debate would be telling.
Truth be told, I’m concerned for Liz Cheney’s safety. I hope that she has good security protection. The Cheney patriarch’s ill-gotten Halliburton gains could certainly pay for that.
Kurt wrote:If Cheney wants a "win" against Trump then she's gotta do a "Third Party" "Real Republicans" thing. That would totally fuck MAGA just as Andrew Yang's "third party" of....Andrew Yang? Would fuck the Dems.
Kurt wrote:seektravelinfo wrote:sparrow wrote:tldr;
Please let this trump nonsense come to an end.
Thank you
Not gonna happen. The RNC is solidly behind him and gearing up for Trump 2024. I hope that Liz Cheney falls on her sword (again) and primaries him, which would force him into a televised debate with her at which he would be eviscerated. No matter to the die-hard Trump voters. They’ll still vote for him, but the machinations that Trump and the RNC would go through to avoid a debate would be telling.
Truth be told, I’m concerned for Liz Cheney’s safety. I hope that she has good security protection. The Cheney patriarch’s ill-gotten Halliburton gains could certainly pay for that.
She has a better chance of Primary-ing Biden. For some reason the Dems have been more praising of her, anti-choice warmonger, than Biden and Harris (not perfect by any means, but c'mon Dems)
If Cheney wants a "win" against Trump then she's gotta do a "Third Party" "Real Republicans" thing. That would totally fuck MAGA just as Andrew Yang's "third party" of....Andrew Yang? Would fuck the Dems.
Who is "they"? The deep state? Isn't Hillary supposed to be part of that? ;-)Tarkan wrote: As for Liz Cheney's safety, I think the "Deep State" will assassinate Trump long before some crazy right wing fascist does in Liz Cheney. I think if it looks like Trump is going to win in 2024, Trump will get assassinated. You can laugh, but some of you might remember I pointed out here in 2004 that they were grooming Obama to run for President at the DNC convention with his speech back then.
el3so wrote:Who is "they"? The deep state? Isn't Hillary supposed to be part of that? ;-)Tarkan wrote: As for Liz Cheney's safety, I think the "Deep State" will assassinate Trump long before some crazy right wing fascist does in Liz Cheney. I think if it looks like Trump is going to win in 2024, Trump will get assassinated. You can laugh, but some of you might remember I pointed out here in 2004 that they were grooming Obama to run for President at the DNC convention with his speech back then.
It was a good speech, that's for sure. Obama did the two terms. That takes more than good speeches alone.
Kurt wrote:She has a better chance of Primary-ing Biden. For some reason the Dems have been more praising of her, anti-choice warmonger, than Biden and Harris (not perfect by any means, but c'mon Dems)
If Cheney wants a "win" against Trump then she's gotta do a "Third Party" "Real Republicans" thing. That would totally fuck MAGA just as Andrew Yang's "third party" of....Andrew Yang? Would fuck the Dems.
seektravelinfo wrote:The Democrats then became mealy-mouthed on the issue, avoided it, changed the subject. Clinton to his credit was always vocally pro-choice. Even though some really bad shit started happening: Clinic bombings, assassinations of doctors, on-going harassment of the general public by Operation Rescue its true that the Democrats did little to nothing.
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