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ReptilianKittenEater wrote:So thoughts about 2022 and 2024.
Who is going to be the GOP pres. nominee in 2024?
Is Trump going to run? It seems that the Dems are delighted by the thought, if he is not nominated than the chances are good he will try to burn down the GOP and maybe run as an independent.
How about Desantis? He is up for re-election as Governor if I am not mistaken. If he wins or loses that would seem to affect his chances as being the nominee, although Hurricane Ian presents him with a chance to present a leader image.
I saw some stuff floating around Tik Tok about a Trump/DSantis team in 2024, but really, why would DeSantis even start to consider this, as he would be the first one to be thrown under the bus.
ReptilianKittenEater wrote:If DeSantis loses the Gubnatorial race is he still the front runner (apologies if I've gotten the year wrong).? If he wins I would think he would be the front runner for nomination.
Tarkan wrote:Trump will not be the nominee. It will be DeSantis vs. Newsome (most likely).
Newsome is already running against DeSantis, not Trump.
ReptilianKittenEater wrote:If DeSantis loses the Gubnatorial race is he still the front runner (apologies if I've gotten the year wrong).? If he wins I would think he would be the front runner for nomination.
Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:Trump will not be the nominee. It will be DeSantis vs. Newsome (most likely).
Newsome is already running against DeSantis, not Trump.
I get the sense that much of the 2024 Will Not Be Biden is really the press doing a story for themselves more than anything. Tons of "Hillary 2024" articles written by former Clinton campaign people out there but I think that is more PR for themselves and the upcoming campaign season than an accurate speculation.
Newsom has said he will not run.
https://www.businessinsider.com/gavin-n ... 024-2022-9
Tarkan wrote:double tap.
I don't think Hillary will run - too old, but the Clintons are starting to tack to the right of the progressive wing (couple of different statements on immigration recently by Bill and Hillary respectively), so something is afoot. Either they are trying to pull the Democrats back from the precipice, or they are testing the waters.
Tarkan wrote:I'm skeptical how much influence and power the progressive wing of the Democratic party *really* has. Meaning, I don't think it will necessarily be the progressives that block a Clinton resurgence, it'll be the money behind the Democrats that block them. Which is going to be the same situation with Trump (and like Biden). Big money is going to flow away from those candidates to alternatives seen as more electable by the powers that be. In 2016, Hillary had a pretty significant money advantage, but Trump got a tremendous amount of free positive coverage during the GOP primary (which was likely an intentional part of the Clinton "pied piper" strategy in encouraging Trump to run in the first place) and figured out how to leverage social media to market his campaign. Both the positive media coverage and the social media angle have been taken away from him, so unless the media decides to rehabilitate Trump for the GOP primary (yet again), I don't see him getting the votes necessary to overcome the spending advantage that DeSantis is going to have. Trump won't self fund his campaign.
BTW, AOC isn't really a progressive. She's an actress.
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