James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

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Postby el3so » Thu May 04, 2023 10:58 pm

Kurt wrote: not knowing "stuff your dad should have taught you"
Like "never trust a chinaman"? Or more like how opening up emotionally doesn't make you any less of a man?
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Re: no velcro joke

Postby Kurt » Fri May 05, 2023 2:55 pm

el3so wrote:
Kurt wrote: not knowing "stuff your dad should have taught you"
Like "never trust a chinaman"? Or more like how opening up emotionally doesn't make you any less of a man?


Exactly.

It is really done to prey on insecurities. Insecure men fork over cash like no one else.

Around 1998 there was this software company called Membergate that pushed subscription websites for people with advice about Y2K. Of course that advice ended up being panic and Y2K was quietly solved by computer nerds. December 31st 1999 I had friends who were holed up in expensive hotels in Lower Manhattan in case the shit really hit the fan for Wall Street. They had free food. Good food but no booze and no partying at all. Nothing happened because they did such good work.

Anway, after Y2k passed the the other subscription sites that popped up had to do something so then it moved to terrorism after 9/11 and then from there it moved to making money from the wars and from there it went to telling men they were basically women unless you forked over cash.

Basically Jordan Peterson came from a line of people who accidentally turned themselves blue by drinking Silver Nitrate while preparing for computer induced end-times.

The weirdest subscription site I ever saw was designed to help people with their Pallet Recycling businesses. After Y2K but before 9/11 there was a semi-scammy "Make Money Recycling Used Pallets" thing. They would cite all the things pallets were used for (and they are) and then go on about how old pallets perform the same task as new pallets do (also true) and then some pallets would just need a few nails here and there and they could be sold again (also true) but the business plan was "pay derelicts to find pallets for you >> fix them if needed using other pallets for parts >> sell them >> Profit" but finding people to sell to and finding people to work the low wage margins needed to make it worthwhile they had lots of "get rich by working" people go broke while working their asses off. So they joined a website to help them. All it did was take more of their cash but that is the thing: Someone in the USA can always come up with $200 no matter how broke they are.

I think James was the only one in his particular niche though, so it probably paid for a while but after people did not get high paying jobs they probably bailed or if they did get a high paying job they also bailed. So he had to switch to the manosphere He Man Woman Haters Club type shit. Then on to the riskier "Charge People For Training To Then Pay To Volunteer To Go To A Relatively Safe Place To Give People Food"
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Re: Update on something ancient.

Postby gnaruki » Fri May 05, 2023 4:42 pm

Kurt wrote:
el3so wrote:
Kurt wrote: not knowing "stuff your dad should have taught you"
Like "never trust a chinaman"? Or more like how opening up emotionally doesn't make you any less of a man?


Exactly.

It is really done to prey on insecurities. Insecure men fork over cash like no one else.



Have you heard of this Grant Cardone guy? He's like Trump and Tony Robbins mentored a guy to prey on insecure entrepreneur bros. He recently made the social media rounds claiming anyone who makes less than $400k should be ashamed of themselves. I guess people pay thousands to hear this guy rant ineloquently. I don't know if you spend time on youtube but coffeezilla is great at calling out this kind of bullshit.

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Re: Update on something ancient.

Postby Kurt » Fri May 05, 2023 5:40 pm

Yah, you gotta do the self-esteem and "everything you do is wrong" move. That way if you spend money and are poor, you are poor cuz you spent money. And if you save Money and are poor, then you are poor cuz you saved money.

They expose the contradiction but really that is the business model. You have to make sure that when someone pays you to help them with success and they fail that it is their fault.

Then you gotta do things like claim someone is a "Hater" or "jealous" or somehow snobbish in that they cannot stand how a regular jackoff is wealthy while managing their reputation by doing things like bothering moderators to delete negative comments about them.

I got so many "Sup Dude" PMs from James in my inbox from 2006 to 2015 as I am sure the other mods got as well. Ashamed to say that upon reviewing my actions I actually often did what he asked.

I knew it was sketchy but I did it anyway. Weird how one remembers themselves as having certain unshakable characteristics and then going back and seeing evidence contradicting that. I like to think of myself as someone who is not fooled by frauds but there I was getting instructions from him, laughing at what a tool he was but then me being a bigger tool and actually doing what he said.

Oh well, I guess I will live with those internal contradictions rather than be crippled by them.
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James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine etc

Postby Kurt » Wed May 31, 2023 8:49 pm

gnaruki wrote:Didn't jitw go broke like a decade ago with whatever his concern was at the time? Seems like a read something along the lines of "My partners screwed me, my life savings is wiped out".


btw. I found all the Partners names. So since they are in the articles of Incorporation and available to the Public I figured I could list them here.


DVM USA INC
E0506272014-2
Domestic Corporation (78)
Founded 10/02/2014
NV Business ID:
NV20141623011

President: James Price
Secretary: Joshua Fagan
Treasurer: Maurice Arippol
Director: James Price

This appears to have been terminated due to lack of report filing and fees.

DVM USA A3 Group
ID: 0809565-5
DCN: 16-09-15-0027
Incorporation date: 09/19/2016

President: James Price
604 Surrey Dr.
Huddleston, VA 24104

One year later the President was changed to:
Eric Jackson
695 Lakewood Forest Rd.
Moneta VA 24121-2544
It issued 75000 shares of stock when formed but it was terminated for lack of an annual report and fees in 2018

The above address was listed as a training address for DMV HASF which was a non-Profit required training provided by the above groups ($100 registration fee and I think about $2000 to $4000 for training fees)

Formed at the same time and at the same address was "Death Valley Monastery USA" (seriously)
Death Valley Monastery USA
Formed: 09/21/2016
ID: 0809655-4
DCN: 16-09-19-0034

James Price was the president and then one year later it was switched again to Eric Jackson.

What is weird is that most of the trouble he reported was before the formation of these corporations in Virginia. I think the Nevada one was formed at about the time he claimed his partner ripped him off.

I could find no police reports against Joshua or Maurice. Usually when someone runs off with a company's shit someone calls the cops.
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Re: James Price / James Grey / DVM

Postby Kurt » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:52 pm

The other "Partner" name I got is David Currie of Lake Tahoe NV.

A3 Group
297 Kingsbury Grade, Suite D
Lake Tahoe, NV
89449-4470

David Currie
CEO
David.Currie[@]*.com (email is not working)


---edit---I posted a post that I had already posted earlier thinking I found something new.

I would blame weed being legal but I have not touched the stuff in 3 months.
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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby Kurt » Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:21 pm

I found one of the "partners".

A legit and law abiding one too. They raised funds for DVM HASF and distributed them directly to James but were owed twice yearly reports on what was done with the money. He missed the report for 2018 on funds received in 2017 and then after 3 years of inactivity they cancelled his account.

He is living with his parents again or at least using their address as a primary address. (a supported retirement apartment complex so maybe his help is needed)

Not sure how many people paid him in order to live his lifestyle but if so I have some advice on how to live like me for free:

1. Take a job.
2. Work at it.
3. If it sucks, quit.
4. Never believe anyone else's definition of success or manliness except your own.
5. Don't pretend to be a close protection specialist and then teach classes on the subject.
6. If you are rich, don't brag about it, cuz that is what jerks and poor people do.
7. If you are a poor jerk also don't lie about how rich you are cuz someone like me is gonna seriously razz you.
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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby Kurt » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:02 pm

Holy Balls.

His non-profit was raking it in (comparably) before everything went to shit.

From 2015 to July 31st 2017 DVM HASF was pulling $6k per month donations. Then he just stopped making monthly reports on where the funds went.

Considering it was about $6k per month and all one had to do was fill out a form that itemized operating expenses with remaining funds carried over and a large part of the DVM HASF model was using funds to pay for DVM's "Scout School" training (as well as asking volunteers to pay for their own travel and training with DVM Scout School) it was a pretty decent income flow. The donations would fund travel for James and the others listed above, an office (Paid, I think, to his Cousin Eric) and then the rest would be funded by volunteers wanting adventure but instead travelling to relatively safe places. Probably the most dangerous one being Honduras.

So just suddenly stopping is something dead people do or people under legal pressure.

After his "NGO" went titsup he then went to the Patreon subscription model and before being removed he had two donors giving $9 per month each.

Since income flow does not mean financial solvency and I have not seen any criminal stuff 'cept for really old forgery conviction in South Carolina (might not even be him) and speeding tickets nor have I seen death certificates (but its a common name and searches from home on a computer are not guaranteed to be accurate for the John Smiths of the world. I am guessing there was financial stress that lead to crimes and the crimes lead to halting all activity he was known for in the past.

Dunno though.

Its been about three years since I have actually done investigation work so this is kind of like "hitting the gym" again for a guy like me.
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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby Devlin » Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:11 am

The legends of James in the World. Those were the days of high adventure.
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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby ROB » Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:43 am

I miss the airline hostess threads.
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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby El Pelon » Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:27 am

Popped in to see what's up and saw this.

Bottom line, it's jacked up, it went stupid, but there were a few good points.

James had a dude in Indonesia set up our website for a very long time and he did it for free (we have control of it now, so those days are over). He was still doing what he did here on the BFC and running his mouth here, but he made sure La Cima had a web presence and was not connected to him and his rantings. He was working in Iraq and was giving his BFC login to other dudes who added "color" to the postings that we all remember, so not everything "he" said was actually from him. There was a lot more stuff that we all also remember that was what it was and for most of it there is no defense.

Some of the other blanks that may or may not need filling in are that yes, James sent info to authorities somewhere about Swain. I begged him not to do it but he did it anyway. I told him if he compromised Swain he risked compromising a lot more of us. I was NOT happy about that...and we will file that under "understatements"

In 2014, we ran two missions in Iraq while ISIS was rolling in. James organized everything and had us set up with Peshmerga military folks (one commander had us eat dinner at his home and told us we were from that day forward to be considered "friends that need no invitation to visit"), and Kurdish doctors who flew in from England, to work with us. He arranged for me to be credentialed by Iraqi Health Ministry to be allowed to legally practice in the camps. We used La Cima as the legal non-profit (I didn't know he was faking a non-profit at the time) and we took a butt ton of money to Iraq ( I was nervous carrying 30+K cash on an airplane). With the money raised we bought shelter material/containers and water heaters on round one. On round two we bought a LOT of food to distribute to Yazidi, Christian and Muslim refugees. At minimum it was 4 dump truck loads of food that James organized and I paid for. All of this was while he was running HASF. The other guys listed above (with HASF) went to Iraq and were sold out on helping those who were in need. They were/are a group who did what needed to be done to serve those in need. They got caught up in this mess and one of them lost everything he owned because of it...but their efforts saved lives no matter what James ended up doing. They are honorable men.

A couple of years after Iraq, 2016, James and one of the dudes named came to Honduras an provided security for one of my gigs. There was a legit gang hit 20 feet in front of our team one night and he got us off the X and we made it while a gangbanger died. While there he trained local preachers and teachers on security techniques to keep them out of harm's way. They went through several hours of instruction and practical application of the training. They all came out of it very pleased that James had taught them how to not get killed by MS-13 or Mara-18. He did a really good job and I filmed a bunch of it to show my future team members.

There was an opportunity (2017) to return to Iraq to rescue Yazidi children who had been taken by ISIS into sex slavery/captivity. James submitted a mission plan to someone who just had a movie made about him dealing with human trafficking...who was funded by a dude that has a pretty big radio show (they flew James out to discuss and I have a pic of the meeting)...and initially he approved the mission plan. There were a few stumbling blocks that kicked us (James' plan) out of the running. The bottom line on that is that the stumbling blocks kicked us out of the running but some High Speed guys did the gig...and probably better than we could have done it...and the kids were rescued. As much as I would have loved to have been a part of bringing those kids back, the fact that they were rescued is all that matters.

Shortly after that, James left the reservation. I had a "farewell message" sent to me after the improprieties became evident and I haven't heard from him since. He had made some horribly poor choices and I have suspicions of why he made those choices, but unless I hear from him at some point in the future, which is doubtful, I will never know.

In the end, James made things happen that I could have never made happen. James got us places I could have never gone. James made very poor choices that had major negative impact on many good people. I ran with James and I loved him and he pissed me off all at the same time.

Probably the same thing folks say about me.

None of us wear a halo. Do your best ladies and gentlemen.

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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby ROB » Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:37 am

El Pelon wrote:Popped in to see what's up and saw this.

Bottom line, it's jacked up, it went stupid, but there were a few good points.

James had a dude in Indonesia set up our website for a very long time and he did it for free (we have control of it now, so those days are over). He was still doing what he did here on the BFC and running his mouth here, but he made sure La Cima had a web presence and was not connected to him and his rantings. He was working in Iraq and was giving his BFC login to other dudes who added "color" to the postings that we all remember, so not everything "he" said was actually from him. There was a lot more stuff that we all also remember that was what it was and for most of it there is no defense.

Some of the other blanks that may or may not need filling in are that yes, James sent info to authorities somewhere about Swain. I begged him not to do it but he did it anyway. I told him if he compromised Swain he risked compromising a lot more of us. I was NOT happy about that...and we will file that under "understatements"

In 2014, we ran two missions in Iraq while ISIS was rolling in. James organized everything and had us set up with Peshmerga military folks (one commander had us eat dinner at his home and told us we were from that day forward to be considered "friends that need no invitation to visit"), and Kurdish doctors who flew in from England, to work with us. He arranged for me to be credentialed by Iraqi Health Ministry to be allowed to legally practice in the camps. We used La Cima as the legal non-profit (I didn't know he was faking a non-profit at the time) and we took a butt ton of money to Iraq ( I was nervous carrying 30+K cash on an airplane). With the money raised we bought shelter material/containers and water heaters on round one. On round two we bought a LOT of food to distribute to Yazidi, Christian and Muslim refugees. At minimum it was 4 dump truck loads of food that James organized and I paid for. All of this was while he was running HASF. The other guys listed above (with HASF) went to Iraq and were sold out on helping those who were in need. They were/are a group who did what needed to be done to serve those in need. They got caught up in this mess and one of them lost everything he owned because of it...but their efforts saved lives no matter what James ended up doing. They are honorable men.

A couple of years after Iraq, 2016, James and one of the dudes named came to Honduras an provided security for one of my gigs. There was a legit gang hit 20 feet in front of our team one night and he got us off the X and we made it while a gangbanger died. While there he trained local preachers and teachers on security techniques to keep them out of harm's way. They went through several hours of instruction and practical application of the training. They all came out of it very pleased that James had taught them how to not get killed by MS-13 or Mara-18. He did a really good job and I filmed a bunch of it to show my future team members.

There was an opportunity (2017) to return to Iraq to rescue Yazidi children who had been taken by ISIS into sex slavery/captivity. James submitted a mission plan to someone who just had a movie made about him dealing with human trafficking...who was funded by a dude that has a pretty big radio show (they flew James out to discuss and I have a pic of the meeting)...and initially he approved the mission plan. There were a few stumbling blocks that kicked us (James' plan) out of the running. The bottom line on that is that the stumbling blocks kicked us out of the running but some High Speed guys did the gig...and probably better than we could have done it...and the kids were rescued. As much as I would have loved to have been a part of bringing those kids back, the fact that they were rescued is all that matters.

Shortly after that, James left the reservation. I had a "farewell message" sent to me after the improprieties became evident and I haven't heard from him since. He had made some horribly poor choices and I have suspicions of why he made those choices, but unless I hear from him at some point in the future, which is doubtful, I will never know.

In the end, James made things happen that I could have never made happen. James got us places I could have never gone. James made very poor choices that had major negative impact on many good people. I ran with James and I loved him and he pissed me off all at the same time.

Probably the same thing folks say about me.

None of us wear a halo. Do your best ladies and gentlemen.

Heading to Nam next. See you if I see you.


So what you're saying is that we aren't getting the airline hostess threads back?

Asking for a friend.
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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby El Pelon » Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:04 pm

[quote So what you're saying is that we aren't getting the airline hostess threads back?

Asking for a friend.][/quote]

It is with a heavy heart I must confirm that the airline hostess threads have gone the way of the dinosaur. I will add that even though the pain is real, for now, time heals all wounds. Be strong.
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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby Kurt » Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:24 pm

Welcome back El Pelon.

Thanks for filling things in. The fact that HASF was not a real charity explains why I could never find the EIN. (Instead he used is SSN for an EIN which is weird and risky)

It is really funny because here he is accusing Swain of running a fake charity

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=48149&p=475457&hilit=Form+4506+A#p475457

Swain, who was working legit, could have been arrested when he went into Indonesia because of James and by most accounts that arrest would have increased his chances of death quite a bit more than not getting arrested in Indonesia.

As far as James having people "post for him" ...Newp. Don't buy it.

I believe he told you that. I believe he tells a lot of people that. But unless you met someone and it was like "Hey, this is Bob, he is me this week while I am doing convoy work in Iraq" and Bob acknowledged that is what he was doing, then the claim is bullshit.

James liked to make people believe his "crew" was much bigger than it was. There was "Matt" who ran Civilian Contractor Jobs. In fact James "Gave" CCJ to "Matt" but I give the chance that "Matt" actually existed to be around 10% based on the timing, hosting records and writing style used in the "Matt" era. "Jay Grey" also ran DVM for a bit, also fake.

James was / is a conman.

He did not set out to be a conman, he set out to be a professional adventurer and he succeeded but he wanted more than to push papers in Qatar, went over his head eventually since he was not Military and that brings us to now.

Conmen become conmen often to cover up financial mistakes or to perpetuate a fantasy life or image of themselves. When they hit conmen stage, people become useful to them (me as moderator of a board that generated a shit-ton of traffic to his various "Be a Man Among Men" sites and Pelon for his charity experience) so they say things like "That wasn't me that said that"

With me he would plead that his life was in danger so he could get me to remove an embarrassing post about him. He then offered to send me "swag" that never arrived. He did a lot of swag baiting it seems. Since El Pelon is not exactly the kind of guy who hits the clubs and brags about his sexual prowess he used his "posting staff" explanation to explain away the more crude things he posted.

But other places he did post as other people praising himself. There was one thread I found where about 70% of the posters were him. There was a WordPress Vulnerability on their message board extension where if you hit ctrl + U to see the html source of the post the html version rendered would show the IP in hex. So when you see that you see the same person claiming that James saved peoples lives in the Philippines, another one saying he is so awesome that he should have an "action figure" made of himself and a really common was "look at the check" as in "James never lets anyone look at the check" (Implying he pays) and when he would be talking trash about some friend of his who was on "Dude, You Are Screwed" he would say "He never even looks at the check" (implying the guy is a sponger)

As simple as this method sounds, he basically got away with it for about 15 years. He was a non-Mil and non-LEO guy who got ex-Mil and ex-LEOs to pay him for Military style training.

One of my jobs while he was posting here was searching for fraudsters for a PI firm (Mentioned earlier) and he slipped under my radar by just seeming like a braggart / infomercial kind of guy.

To this day on other sites he used, he managed to get the Webmasters to delete the embarrassing stuff, like about how he stole shit from fellow contractors and his employers. So he was actually pretty good. He had a decent run as a fantasist turned not-really-fantasist (good thing he got out of that X in Honduras. A cabbie I hired in Port Au Prince years ago did that too and Military or not Military all that matters is getting out of a gunfight)
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Re: James Price / James Grey / Death Valley Magazine fraud

Postby Kurt » Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:17 pm

Wonder what happened with this raffle?

https://soldiersystems.net/2017/12/03/h ... in-prizes/

If he really was not a 5013c then this raffle would have been illegal in both Virginia and Nevada
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