I had coffee today with a 100 year old

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I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Kurt » Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:22 pm

WWII vet. Likely the last surviving combat B-17 pilot.

He flew his last combat mission over 75 years ago but today was the 75th anniversary of his last flight as a US Army Air Force pilot.

Today he told me that the B-24 went from paper to fully operational in 3 months time. This included building the factory that made them, test crashing, test flying and all that.

Pretty cool.
And he says Trump is a fascist and to make sure he is not elected.
"[Fighting] Germany we could take away everything from them. Make the Nazis no longer economically viable until the country they used as their vehicle surrendered to us on our terms..but we do not have that condition available for us now. We cannot bomb our own country but they have the option of to be violent, so we have to hit them legally and economically so they can no longer function or else someone else will need to bomb us to get rid of them." (WWII Veteran 4 months before January 6th)
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Kurt » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:48 pm

sparrow wrote:^He would know. This has happened before. And he was there.


When he was in his late 90s he went into more detail but the threat had not coalesced around Trump yet.

The guy also does not need to wear glasses
"[Fighting] Germany we could take away everything from them. Make the Nazis no longer economically viable until the country they used as their vehicle surrendered to us on our terms..but we do not have that condition available for us now. We cannot bomb our own country but they have the option of to be violent, so we have to hit them legally and economically so they can no longer function or else someone else will need to bomb us to get rid of them." (WWII Veteran 4 months before January 6th)
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Kurt » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:53 pm

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Here it is.

He did not believe Trump was a fascist then but he has proved we are never to old to learn.
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Devlin » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:08 pm

This country could not get anything done in three months these days.
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Kurt » Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:36 pm

Devlin wrote:This country could not get anything done in three months these days.

We talked about that. A big problem is the demand for multiple vendors rather than single vendor (and then watching costs like a hawk)
His take was that during war a test pilot or factory construction member was considered a risk. So 3 test pilots dying and ten construction workers getting killed for the 3 month deadline could save 100 pilots, 2000 soldier and end the war faster.
So his fast era and our slow era both take appropriate risks into account.
But i think meetings kill more time than is accounted for.
"[Fighting] Germany we could take away everything from them. Make the Nazis no longer economically viable until the country they used as their vehicle surrendered to us on our terms..but we do not have that condition available for us now. We cannot bomb our own country but they have the option of to be violent, so we have to hit them legally and economically so they can no longer function or else someone else will need to bomb us to get rid of them." (WWII Veteran 4 months before January 6th)
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Darcy » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:02 pm

Kurt wrote:WWII vet. Likely the last surviving combat B-17 pilot.

He flew his last combat mission over 75 years ago but today was the 75th anniversary of his last flight as a US Army Air Force pilot.

Today he told me that the B-24 went from paper to fully operational in 3 months time. This included building the factory that made them, test crashing, test flying and all that.

Pretty cool.
And he says Trump is a fascist and to make sure he is not elected.


Very, very cool. Oldest pilot I knew was this racist old fart that flew for the Luftwaffe in WWII. Went by the moniker "Steady Eddie" with a 6 pack of Molson Export under his helo seat at all times. The company sent him out one season with a Middle Eastern fellow and it was entertaining to say the least. Not sure how old he was when he kicked the bucket, I only knew him in his mid-70s.
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby gnaruki » Fri May 24, 2024 5:50 pm

Is he one of these four guys, Kurt? All of them centenarians (or close enough). Incredible!

Lucky Luckadoo

Paul “Bud” Haedike (just died in March)

Dick Nelms

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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Kurt » Fri May 24, 2024 8:41 pm

Wow. He must be the last B-17 pilot then.

But it was not any of these guys.

I gotta friend who is a local journo. Ill see if i can hook them up and provide the link here
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Kurt » Sat May 25, 2024 5:26 pm

"[Fighting] Germany we could take away everything from them. Make the Nazis no longer economically viable until the country they used as their vehicle surrendered to us on our terms..but we do not have that condition available for us now. We cannot bomb our own country but they have the option of to be violent, so we have to hit them legally and economically so they can no longer function or else someone else will need to bomb us to get rid of them." (WWII Veteran 4 months before January 6th)
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby SOUTHWEST RANGER » Tue May 28, 2024 3:20 pm

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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Chimborazo » Wed May 29, 2024 8:30 pm

Kurt wrote:A big problem is the demand for multiple vendors rather than single vendor (and then watching costs like a hawk)


But this shouldn't just be about cost control. Companies don't last as long as they used to, and having only one company that not only knows how to make your widgets but also has the production lines up and running (and QC) with most of the kinks worked out is not an insignificant risk. Yes, there should be lots of warning signs, but comprehensive audits will never reveal everything, especially when someone's really good at hiding things. In addition, those companies need to have robust (and tested) DR and BC plans, which is expensive. I'd rather have three vendors running at 60% - 70% capacity who can ramp up to cover each other if necessary. Even if two get in trouble at least you've got one company who can deliver something while you figure out how to get more lines up (which should already be addressed anyway in a BCP).
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Re: I had coffee today with a 100 year old

Postby Chimborazo » Wed May 29, 2024 8:31 pm

Oh, and have you seen Masters of the Air? It's worth getting an AppleTV free trial and binging.
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