Soldiers submit war pics to porn site

[Prodigal Son]

Perhaps some here have heard of the deal that thatsfuckedup.com has offered to soldiers serving Iraq -- send in war pics, especially gruesome war pics, and get free access to their porn site.

What a deal.

Here is one of the better photos:



Neat huh? Democracy is clearly on the march.

Anyway, you can see more of them at:

Enjoy!
http://www.nowthatsfuckedup.com/bbs/forum23.html

[Pam]

OMG YUCK!!!!!!!!! That is fucked up stuff.

[coldharvest]

Neat huh?

Are you sure it's not just a bowl of Face soup?

[Slam]

It might just be a baked potato with the image of Russell Crowe in it.

[britneyfan97]

now just add crushed pork rinds for flavor...

[Dim]

Gee - and Americans struggle to understand why the rest of the world doesn't recognise their clear moral superiority. Godwins law aside, at least the Nazis had the good sense to try and hide their various atrocities from the people back home.

[Renard]

at least the Nazis had the good sense to try and hide their various atrocities from the people back home.

Well, to be fair, Dim, the Nazis occupied a time in history well before a/v digital technology became (so) low-cost and commonplace.

[Jumper]

Perhaps the reason why there was a photo taken of this object was for trying to identify who it was, enemy or not. I do agree that posting this for visual entertainment is dispicable, but it is human nature to want to see such things. Would you say that hanging out on a forum dedicated to travel to dangerous places is at all moral? I mean we are celebrating our deviant yet instinctual disposition to oogle at fucked up people and places, aren't we when we say "Go to a war zone and take pictures". And worse yet, come back to this forum and tell others on how to get there and what there is to do. I see it as our duality. No one feels good about a car wreck, but they certainly like to watch them or see them in a newspaper or TV, despite all the pain it caused. Food for thought.

[Pam]

To me its the idea of this and porn together that bothers me.

Everyone has a different take on what turns them on and I have never had an issue with it as long as it does not involve children and is consentual.

As you mentioned Jumper if this head was photographed to identify it then it is not wrong but personally my mind just can't cope with that head and porn in the same context.

[Foulplay]

[We are] hanging out on a forum dedicated to travel to dangerous places.....

...We are celebrating our deviant yet instinctual disposition to oogle at fucked up people and places, [while saying] "Go to a war zone and take pictures", and worse yet, come back to this forum and tell others on how to get there and what there is to do.

<b>This is a massive subject and worthy of its own thread.</b>

The other point that Pam raises about this being connected with porn... I'm not so sure this is.

I think the operators of the site have identified a large and very much 'ripe' market. - Men at war are (mostly) going to be enticed by the forum moderators' offer. There's not an awful lot more to it than that.

Obviously there will be certain deviants that exist outside of that demographic, but I believe that is the exception to the rule.

FP.

[lightstalker]

There is a market for anything and everything these days.
"bizzare" magazine made its niche just by filling pages with pictures of severed heads,severed torso's,suicide bomber remains etc etc simply for SHOCK VALUE.

[Mikethehack]

This is just a sort of extension of the Abu Ghraib story in that all soldiers carry cameras with them and will take pix of whatever interests them. I am well used to soldiers coming up to me offering to sell pix of corpses from various battles in the hope they are newsworthy.
Most get passed around and one GI will show his pix to another in the same way they swap porn mags and other stuff.
Some people travel with cameras and some people travel with guns and some travel with both. But one thing you will rarely see is soldiers taking photos of their own dead buddies, even when they have been horribly mutilated by the other side.

I have had lots of mutilation/torture pix offered to be from Beirut to Bosnia during the bad times there but for one commercial,legal,security or moral reason or another I couldn't find a way to get them published,even for free,except at best, leftie mags or human rights papers and even they were sometimes reluctant.
I get loads of young people saying "we want to see what it's really like out there because the news doesn't show it like it really is" (well if you do,then why are you asking?) so I whip out some pix like the one above and everyone gets sick,or I show people sitting around at home smoking because it's too dangerous to go out on the streets,or queueing for food or hanging around bored (war can be incredibly boring) because there is no real economy.
What's it really like? I don't have a bloody clue. Scarily boring sometimes, I suppose.
Cest la vie,cest la guerre.

Now this is much more interesting to look at (and I really care about her,unlike the poor soul above,but hey it could be me in the next life.Nothing personal dude)

[Jumper]

Here is the bitter truth about this. The news both copy and video, want to put things like this in their story. It is eye catching and revolting at the same time. It draws in the viewer or reader to the story. How many of us have heard the fucking anchor man say, "Warning, this video may not be suitable for younger viewers" and then they go and show the thing. It sells. But then these are the same media sources that would absolutely tear this concept apart in a story. Basicly, this kind of thing is destroying the shock value of such things which equates to ratings and profits for the larger media centers. It is the globalization of media. Blogs and 24 hour cable news have laid waste to the traditional six o'clock news hacks. Now this kind of file sharing/ video web log stuff is in direct competition with Blogs and cable news.
Once control of media has been released via the advent of cheap digital video and free blog and picture file services, the gates of media globalization have been opened. The only way to stop it is out compete the concept or destroy the internet. Perhaps in the future we will see news channels handing out as many cameras as their budget can afford to anyone that wants one in order to collect enough video to share and compete.
It boils down to this, do I want to watch one cool video of some guys shooting and killing in a war on a CNN website or do I want to go to a site like this and have access to hundreds of guys doing all sorts of crazy and sick things without any restrictions or editing and for free? The future of media is in the mind of freedom.

[Jumper]

One more point and I will shut up. With the advent of the globalization of media, who will us "babe-in-the-woods" types listen to? Way back when we had a few reporters that we trusted to collect the information and give it to us straight, we had it easy. Who do we have now? We are in a sea of white noise. Perhaps our answer to this dilema are forums like this one.

Already I find myself visiting AOL news, just because I have to check my mail and MSN news because of my Hotmail. But after I check my mail, I jump over to the BFC. Why is that? It is because I have come to trust a collective and not just one person to obtain information. I come here because I get the kinds of information that appeals to me. I do not go to a republican or democrat website for news or network. I do not seek out liberal newspapers or conservative news sources to feel comfortable, I come here. This beast of a forum is divided right down the middle as far as opinion and thought and that is the way I like it. There is pro Iraq and anti Iraq on this site and I like that. There are people here that travel to most of the places that news channels go to, and I like that. And most of all, I come here to get inspired.


I do the same thing for financial news. Although that is tougher, because money people really have an agenda. But I have gravitated more to forums than hard copy or news websites. Those areas might help start a conversation, but for analysis and thought, I care more about what the people think about it. It is about network for life, network for business, network for news, and network for love. So this is how I have evolved, any thoughts on where we are going.....

[Mikethehack]

And those who say they find the news boring obviously haven't laid eyes on cute Kate....Jumper,meet Kate, my girlfriend (before you get any greasy ideas :-)