Media RYP Blog Attack!

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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby RYP » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:26 am

Bitches like a bit of snark now and then

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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby SusanKatzKeating » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:27 am

And yet... when General Petraeus wanted to deliver a message to the troops, he emailed.... Blackfive (a milblogger, for those of you who get most of your mil-news from the BFC). Why? One word: Readership.

As for the comments re me wanting only to praise the Army, blah blah blah... I've done my fair share of criticism, especially in regards to PTSD policy and other matters, dating back to the 1990's, when I took on the Army's CILHI lab for misidentifying servicemen's remains. Bottom line is, RYP's piece in Men's Journal reads like a silly hit job, concerned more with atmospherics than anything else. I think we've already seen that story... or was it a movie... Platoon? The Deer Hunter?
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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby RYP » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:38 am

Susan, if the CENTCOM commander really needed to use a blogger to communicate to his troops...we are well and truly fucked...since most of the combat zone military can't actually read blogs since they are on NIPR and SIPR or nowhere near a computer. I am not as critical of bloggers as some here but they really do get all pageant about themselves.


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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby Jäeger » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:46 am

LechoZX:
I took one bit of that post for humor's sake, and now I am Goebels.


No, you're not Goebels. I dated Goebel's niece. I wish I could say that she was a hot fraulein, but she looked like her uncle. The beer helped.
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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby Jumper » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:46 am

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SusanKatzKeating wrote:Uh... dont forget to quote the rest of his post, O Acolyte.

As for my own questions... I'll pose 'em via my blog. Better for the page views... ; )

Okay, so you're not all sycophants. LechoZX qualifies as a full fledged disinformation specialist. RYP must be so proud...


I should, to take away from his page views ;) Welcome to 5th grade.

But really, I don't know RYP, I've never even met him. I couldn't care less if you want to make him look bad. I have nothing at stake here. No matter who you are, you're always going to have enemies anyway, so this whole exercise is probably pointless. I have been reading what has gone on back and forth in the public realm, and you come across as an annoying, whining little girl who is upset because you didn't get your way and now you're hanging onto whoever's pant leg you can. Apparently some people, like you, think that the US military is beyond reproach. Guess what, nothing is. You can't expect to come in here and take pointless pot shots and ride others' coattails and not feel the wrath. Because if somebody calls you out on it; they obviously must be a member of the cult. I am not here to promote or defend anybody. If I am a "misinformation specialist" then what are you? I took one bit of that post for humor's sake, and now I am Goebels. That's exactly what you've been doing on here. The difference is, I have no agenda and no reputation to uphold. However, you have been claiming you have purpose for this and "you're making a difference". Well the only difference I have seen is us being able to have some fun at your expensive. The only difference I hope to make is a few laughs for people I don't know, but enjoy their discourse. If you have a point to make, do it, otherwise I suspect all you'll get is more snark.


So this is you defending Pelton's right to use lawyers to put other people's opinions of him in check? What happened to Freedom of Speech? I don't agree with him here on his own forum, so does that mean he is going to pull out his legal team on me now?

Like I said, he wrote it, he should man up and defend it. Using lawyers to go after bloggers, is pure chicken shit.
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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby Ultra Swain » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:51 am

so does that mean he is going to pull out his legal team on me now?


Hold on jumper, I am going to run to the garage and grab my nails. Try not to die for my sins until I get back.
Geez,am I NOT ALLOWED TO BE INTENSE FOR JUST 10 FUCKING SECONDS??!!!!!!!
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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby LechoZX » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:57 am

Jumper wrote:So this is you defending Pelton's right to use lawyers to put other people's opinions of him in check? What happened to Freedom of Speech? I don't agree with him here on his own forum, so does that mean he is going to pull out his legal team on me now?

Like I said, he wrote it, he should man up and defend it. Using lawyers to go after bloggers, is pure chicken shit.


I never said anything about lawyers. Also, I pretty much said my intent wasn't to defend RYP, it was to give Susan a hard time because she was being annoying. When I made a point to her, she immediately assumed I was one of RYP's attack dogs. You know that I'm not.

As far as my opinion regarding lawyers v. bloggers.... I think it's paranoid and unnecessary, but if that is how he wants to roll, that's up to him. I know that is a soft spot for you because you are a blogger, but with great power comes great responsibility as Spiderman said.
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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby Jumper » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:03 am

Ultra Swain wrote:
so does that mean he is going to pull out his legal team on me now?


Hold on jumper, I am going to run to the garage and grab my nails. Try not to die for my sins until I get back.



And of course there is Jesus with a Nail Gun. Ultra is Pelton's steady and firm 'rock' here at the flag. (any second Kurt will show up with something to say)

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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby RYP » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:05 am

jumper once again you are getting all drama queenie... "old blue" as he likes to call himself was getting so hyperventilated in his attempt to run me over that he crossed the double yellow line. I can say "in my opinion Jumper appears to be stretching the truth. but if I say "Jumper is lying" and I have no proof to back it up then you can sue me for libel and if your source of income depends on your truthfullness then you would be well served to be proven right by an impartial party.

But Jumper lets have a reality check. I didn't get out of bed and start insulting these people. They got their pajamas on and figured they would invent things about me and not really focus on the article. Once again everyone should have an educated opinion but I don't understand what the feigned anger and daisy chain love does for anyone. No one is stopping them from spending as long as they want with the HTS program and writing their own story....but they don't...nor do they seem to know that much about the program.
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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby Jumper » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:06 am

LechoZX wrote:
Jumper wrote:So this is you defending Pelton's right to use lawyers to put other people's opinions of him in check? What happened to Freedom of Speech? I don't agree with him here on his own forum, so does that mean he is going to pull out his legal team on me now?

Like I said, he wrote it, he should man up and defend it. Using lawyers to go after bloggers, is pure chicken shit.


I never said anything about lawyers. Also, I pretty much said my intent wasn't to defend RYP, it was to give Susan a hard time because she was being annoying. When I made a point to her, she immediately assumed I was one of RYP's attack dogs. You know that I'm not.

As far as my opinion regarding lawyers v. bloggers.... I think it's paranoid and unnecessary, but if that is how he wants to roll, that's up to him. I know that is a soft spot for you because you are a blogger, but with great power comes great responsibility as Spiderman said.


You are correct sir, paranoid and unnecessary is an excellent choice of words.
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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby dawud » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:19 am

yeah, I would agree on 'paranoid and unnecessary' as a description about arguing about RYP's article, when those who have criticisms of it are more than welcome to go on their own and write about the HTS...

why vent about it unless it was a majorly important article, or the first of it's kind, an "embedded journalist" with the HTS? If it was the first, then why?

Write your own damn material, chill out a bit.

While I wouldn't sue over a blog myself, it appears that it was a necessary step to get the blogger to realize the situation. RYP wasn't lying about several key elements he was accused of, and he sent emails and photos that apparently verify his story, but the blogger wouldn't acknowledge these until RYP added the threat of suing.

None of this should be construed as a defense of RYP's article, because as I say, I wasn't there and don't know the full details. It just seems as though RYP is willing to verify the facts he detailed, backs himself up and stands behind his words. It appears that this OldBlue blogger doesn't care to do the same with his statements.
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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby RYP » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:25 am

for the record... I never threatened to sue the guy.... I helped him understand the difference between opinion and libel and encouraged him to talk to HIS lawyer. If you are going to run a blog you need to know where the pavement stops and where things start getting bumpy.

It is fascinating how when you actually talk to these people, they get all emo and rain man.

The latest anonymous blogger (hyper-patriotic of course) says "We all know how stupid some leadership and individuals can be, but to make them look like fools in the public arena was uncalled for."

let me ruminate on that one for a while.....oh wait...wasn't I was paid to actually tell the truth?

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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby Jumper » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:27 am

Gay Kirk wrote:jumper once again you are getting all drama queenie... "old blue" as he likes to call himself was getting so hyperventilated in his attempt to run me over that he crossed the double yellow line. I can say "in my opinion Jumper appears to be stretching the truth. but if I say "Jumper is lying" and I have no proof to back it up then you can sue me for libel and if your source of income depends on your truthfullness then you would be well served to be proven right by an impartial party.

But Jumper lets have a reality check. I didn't get out of bed and start insulting these people. They got their pajamas on and figured they would invent things about me and not really focus on the article. Once again everyone should have an educated opinion but I don't understand what the feigned anger and daisy chain love does for anyone. No one is stopping them from spending as long as they want with the HTS program and writing their own story....but they don't...nor do they seem to know that much about the program.


Oh bullshit dude. The guy is taking a critical look at what you wrote, and you got all bent out of shape and decided to threaten him with lawyers. That is pure sand in the vagina material, and you know it. I disagree with you all the time on this forum and call you out on all sorts of bullshit, and now all of a sudden you get tweaked by a blogger? (taking notes.....)

And look at the title of this thread? Media: RYP Blog Attack!!!! Quick everyone, run to poor Pelty's aid because a wee little blogger disagrees with him. Ahhhhhhhhhhh. And then you play the lawyer card? Too funny, and that is some pure Californication.


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Re: Media RYP Blog Attack!

Postby RYP » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:33 am

Jumper I think you misread the grammar...it meant that I was attacking the blogs.. LIke those bad 50's movies...although William Shatner is damn funny and... CANADIAN!

....can't ....stand... the... punishment... any...more....


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