So Britain cannot deport people

[rickshaw92]

unless the European Court of Human Right's approves it?

So I'm spendin all kinds of money on immigration n shit for nuthin? Bollocks!

[Caliban]

unless the European Court of Human Right's approves it?

So I'm spendin all kinds of money on immigration n shit for nuthin? Bollocks!

I told you , weekend back in Canukland, commit a Canadian atrocity and fuck off back here tootsweet. Sorted, perfect crime and a lifetime of purgatory living in England. But you were only thinking about more beer and didn't listen to the drunk in the corner.

[Jefe]

Good god! Those numbers are insane. Need more judges? I have always been very judgemental of other people and if they make a balding version of the cool wigs from Colonial times, I could fit right in.

Don't worry about a press officer, I can make ALL KINDs of headlines by myself!

[Amat_victoria_curam]

There is a difference between the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) which passes judgement on breaches of the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR) and the EU courts. ECtHR and ECHR are connected to the Council of Europe, which is NOT the same as the EU although the flags of both the Council and the EU are almost exactly identical (for some reason). Russia for example is a member of the Council (and thereby a party to the ECHR), but obviously we would never let them in the EU. Forget the EU, they have nothing to do with this. Complaints to the ECtHR can be only be made after all national remedies have been depleted. If so, it can be taken up in the court if they find that they have juristiction (since only contries are parties to the ECHR, the UN or NATO for example cannot be tried). If the court finds that a breach of one of the articles has been made, it usually makes the country pay up. To a country this is usually fairly cheap and mostly worth it. If they would have deported him first, and then been found guilty of the breach, they would have had to pay him but he would already be under Jordanian juristiction so he would have been screwed anyway.

[rickshaw92]

The European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) is totally gay.

Just sayin.

[nowonmai]

No one said it was part of the EU, a couple of colonials (Kurt and Lanky) may have hinted at it but it wasn't explicitly said so your didactory tone could have been dialled down a bit in my view. I'm well aware of the nature of the snares that my country has been caught up in. I take the view that anything with Europe in the title is a threat to my liberty. The fact is that they all act like the Eurovision Song Contest and thoroughly enjoy kicking the Brits up the arse.

Don't tell me that it was Churchill's idea either, I'm not interested. He made some big mistakes, as the Poles and not a few dead ANZACs will tell you, and this was one of them; he should have known better. Read Assignment to Catastrophe for proof that he knew the nature of the beast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assignment_to_Catastrophe

So in summary, fuck Europe and all its conventions and gravy trains.

[Amat_victoria_curam]

No one said it was part of the EU, a couple of colonials (Kurt and Lanky) may have hinted at it but it wasn't explicitly said so your didactory tone could have been dialled down a bit in my view. I'm well aware of the nature of the snares that my country has been caught up in. I take the view that anything with Europe in the title is a threat to my liberty. The fact is that they all act like the Eurovision Song Contest and thoroughly enjoy kicking the Brits up the arse.

Don't tell me that it was Churchill's idea either, I'm not interested. He made some big mistakes, as the Poles and not a few dead ANZACs will tell you, and this was one of them; he should have known better. Read Assignment to Catastrophe for proof that he knew the nature of the beast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assignment_to_Catastrophe

So in summary, fuck Europe and all its conventions and gravy trains.

Apologies for my tone, it was not my meaning. I just wanted to categorize the chum before I threw it in the water. I agree that the Council of Europe is completely laughable, and that the EU is a mess. The ECtHR flawed as it is though, is really the only way of stepping over national courts judgements that contravenes basic human rights. Fucked up as it may be it's still better than nothing in my view. As for your view of anything "European" I respect your opinion as I respect all hopeless resistance to subversive master plans, but in the case of the EU it's not gonna help.

[Ultra Swain]

Hopeless resistance to subversive master plans? Sounds like a job for the Internet to me! I will organize the flashmob.

[Caliban]

Hopeless resistance to subversive master plans? Sounds like a job for the Internet to me! I will organize the flashmob.

See if you can get Wiki to close down for it...

[nowonmai]

The ECtHR flawed as it is though, is really the only way of stepping over national courts judgements that contravenes basic human rights. Fucked up as it may be it's still better than nothing in my view.

Then you're a fucking cunt and an idiot.
I respect you as much as a piece of dogshit on my shoe.

Fuck Europe and fuck you.

[nowonmai]

I wish to report a break in. Last night someone broke into my room, beat me up, messed up my hair, stole all my money, emptied the bottom of a budgie cage in my mouth and posted this ridiculous nonsense.

The ECtHR flawed as it is though, is really the only way of stepping over national courts judgements that contravenes basic human rights. Fucked up as it may be it's still better than nothing in my view.

Then you're a fucking cunt and an idiot.
I respect you as much as a piece of dogshit on my shoe.

Fuck Europe and fuck you.

When I find out who did it I'll make sure that as penance they spend the rest of the day in a grim silence, sighing deeply every now and then, sipping cold water but unable to remove the taste of some fucking horrible spirit and doing a lot of temple rubbing. The bastard would probably offer humble apologies if he didn't feel so sorry for himself.

[Mikethehack]

I wish to report a break in. Last night someone broke into my room, beat me up, messed up my hair, stole all my money, emptied the bottom of a budgie cage in my mouth and posted this ridiculous nonsense.

The ECtHR flawed as it is though, is really the only way of stepping over national courts judgements that contravenes basic human rights. Fucked up as it may be it's still better than nothing in my view.

Then you're a fucking cunt and an idiot.
I respect you as much as a piece of dogshit on my shoe.

Fuck Europe and fuck you.

When I find out who did it I'll make sure that as penance they spend the rest of the day in a grim silence, sighing deeply every now and then, sipping cold water but unable to remove the taste of some fucking horrible spirit and doing a lot of temple rubbing. The bastard would probably offer humble apologies if he didn't feel so sorry for himself.

Lol! Come back Penta, all is forgiven ;-)

[denise]

I wish to report a break in. Last night someone broke into my room, beat me up, messed up my hair, stole all my money, emptied the bottom of a budgie cage in my mouth and posted this ridiculous nonsense.

The ECtHR flawed as it is though, is really the only way of stepping over national courts judgements that contravenes basic human rights. Fucked up as it may be it's still better than nothing in my view.

Then you're a fucking cunt and an idiot.
I respect you as much as a piece of dogshit on my shoe.

Fuck Europe and fuck you.

When I find out who did it I'll make sure that as penance they spend the rest of the day in a grim silence, sighing deeply every now and then, sipping cold water but unable to remove the taste of some fucking horrible spirit and doing a lot of temple rubbing. The bastard would probably offer humble apologies if he didn't feel so sorry for himself.

and if he hadn't actually meant it to some degree - at least the fuck europe part.

Please accept MY apologies instead as it is obvious to me that nowonmai's noble efforts to helpfully hoist me onto the wagon were apparently so strenuous as to cause him to fall off.

a simple variation on the immovable object (me) meets the irresistable force (nowonmai) wherein the immovable object decides to get with the program thereby sending the irresistable force flying ;-)

[denise]

I wish to report a break in. Last night someone broke into my room, beat me up, messed up my hair, stole all my money, emptied the bottom of a budgie cage in my mouth and posted this ridiculous nonsense.

The ECtHR flawed as it is though, is really the only way of stepping over national courts judgements that contravenes basic human rights. Fucked up as it may be it's still better than nothing in my view.

Then you're a fucking cunt and an idiot.
I respect you as much as a piece of dogshit on my shoe.

Fuck Europe and fuck you.

When I find out who did it I'll make sure that as penance they spend the rest of the day in a grim silence, sighing deeply every now and then, sipping cold water but unable to remove the taste of some fucking horrible spirit and doing a lot of temple rubbing. The bastard would probably offer humble apologies if he didn't feel so sorry for himself.

Lol! Come back Penta, all is forgiven ;-)

Penta found Jesus?

[Amat_victoria_curam]

My bad, I just had a final exam in international law in crisis and conflict covering these questions and pathetically thought I would actually get some interesting viewpoints. Clearly I was fucking wrong.

Yeah, I don't post much, I'm mainly a reader (except when I've got the time) but am on to something if I say that you just accused me of being Penta in disguise? Is that on account of pointing out that the current judicial human rights systems are seriously flawed? In that case you are mistaking an observation for a political opinion. I'm in security politics, I don't have to mean what I say.