Police taser 75 yr old woman

[Romeo247]

without a gun and a badge what have you got? a sucker in a uniform waiting to get shot...

fuck L.E. everyone one of them was the kid in school who got there ass kicked around the block.. could never score with the ladies...... had to join a click to be someone... lmao....

barely making above minimum wage.. and for what? trying to act big to compensate for that little dick.

fucking bullies..... run in numbers, pick on the minorites.. keep that glock tight to your hip, because god knows.. you cant throw a fist or defend yourselfs.... old lady beating, cowardly punk motherfuckers.....

[cbychoice]

The officer had no commmon sense ,obviously obtuse with poor training thrown in.


Go Kazca

[Tarkan]

There is a LONG thread on this on AR15.com

Basically, what the cops say is that tazering someone is, on the force escalation continuum, one step removed from a verbal command, and below placing your hand on their shoulder.

Their excuse was that grabbing the geriatric lady could result in injury. Well no shit. So can tazering her and having her fall down and break her hip.

The conundrum LEOs are placed in is that if they follow the policy, and get sued, the department covers the cost. If they deviate from the policy, they are exposed to personal liability.

So, it's better if an old lady dies and they followed regs than if they deviate from regs and get fired or sued but the old lady lives.

Pretty fucked up.

[Romeo247]

The conundrum LEOs are placed in is that if they follow the policy, and get sued, the department covers the cost.

the department lol.

no no..

you pay it.. le exist because of our tax dollars.. every taxpaying american on this board pays for your local cop to shock elderly women with tons of electro juice.

club the darkey he resisted arrest... (rodney king) pussy ass le........ and those who call them cause there neighbor doesnt like this and that... welcome to the ss 2004 style, sponsered by gw bush

[Renard]

Basically this debate should have ended with 2Charlie's post. A officer is supposed to respond with reasonable force when force is presented against him or her.

Tasering an unarmed, confused, 74 year old woman, who, the facts reveal was physically unable to inflict harm given her arthritis and her recent six broken ribs, is not reasonable force.

The officer should be suspended at the very least, given her gross incompetence.

[britneyfan97]

>>>welcome to the ss 2004 style, sponsered by gw bush


police were around before gw big guy. and will be long after. and what would you prefer? vigilanteism??
the criminal justice system has issues, absolutely. but it's all we've got at the moment.

and given your lowly opinion of those in LE / security professions, consider this:
have you ever spent a day/week/month seeing some of the worst behavior humanity has to offer one another? have you gone from accident scene involving a drunk driver (who your partner arrested for the same thing the month prior), then had to go to the hospital to get statements from the victims??
ever been to a violent domestic??
by the way, not every cop is a racist.

as for this taser incident, this officer is going to have to answer some serious questions, the department is being looked at in a poor light because of this, and she had better have good justification for this.

tarkan is right and the officer decided to follow regs (if that is where tasers fall in the continuum for their dept.) instead of just taking hold of her. right in that she'll probably keep her job despite the depts disgrace, because she followed the regs. she did exactly what her dept told her to do in its SOP's.

if she tried to use her own judgement and something happened- the old woman physically struggled, and fell... she would not be afforded the same protection as if she had tasered the woman.

hope she's union, and in a prepaid legal program either way.

[Kasca]

police were around before

>>The militarization of the police and the erosion of civil rights began under Reagan, the "law and order" administration, with the draconian drug laws.

"Just following orders" is the excuse the Nazis tried to give at Nuremberg that was not accepted by the world.

[Tarkan]

police were around before

>>The militarization of the police and the erosion of civil rights began under Reagan, the "law and order" administration, with the draconian drug laws.

"Just following orders" is the excuse the Nazis tried to give at Nuremberg that was not accepted by the world.

You may not realize this, but not all of the evils in the world or even most of them are caused by Republicans past and present. In fact, a lot of bad things are caused by "good" liberals with "good" intentions. But usually they are on to the next hip cause of the month while the recipients of their "kindness" are left to reap the whirlwind.

[RatherNotSay]

What the fuck is it with all the comparisons on this board lately to nazis?

I know for a fact the people using that reference here are more intelligent, creative, and capable of critical thought than that.

Give it a rest already with the hitler cliches.

[SRR]

Give it a rest already with the hitler cliches.

Jeez, what are you - the Gestapo or something?

;)

[Kasca]

You may not realize this, but not all of the evils in the world or even most of them are caused by Republicans past and present.

>>Tarkan, this is not about -sides-, it's about _facts_. It was Reagan who initiated the drug laws and coined the terms "Drug War" and "Drug Czar."

In the past thirty years, Republicans have been the ones who have consistently eroded civil liberties with their "law and order" attitude, but Democrats go along or cave in.

And Clinton shares some of the blame; he was the one who brought in the Anti Terrorism Bill after Oklahoma City.

[Kasca]

[quote="RatherNotSay"]What the fuck is it with all the comparisons on this board lately to nazis?


>>>Yes, it is worrying, isn't it? And it isn't just on this board. People don't make these comparisons for no reason. Hmmm...fascism is the merging of corporate power with the state. Could it be a case of "If the shoe fits, wear it"?

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

[RatherNotSay]

it is worrying, isn't it?

Yes.

[Aegis]

What the fuck is it with all the comparisons on this board lately to nazis?


>>>Yes, it is worrying, isn't it? And it isn't just on this board. People don't make these comparisons for no reason. Hmmm...fascism is the merging of corporate power with the state. Could it be a case of "If the shoe fits, wear it"?

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

No, fascism is not the merging of state and corperate power.

fas·cism Audio pronunciation of "Fascism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fshzm)
n.

1. often Fascism
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

[Tarkan]

You may not realize this, but not all of the evils in the world or even most of them are caused by Republicans past and present.

>>Tarkan, this is not about -sides-, it's about _facts_. It was Reagan who initiated the drug laws and coined the terms "Drug War" and "Drug Czar."

So? I'm as anti-drug war as you are, and probably for more or less the same reasons.

75 year old ladies aren't getting tazed in nursing homes because Reagan was president back in 1987 or because Bush is president now ("it's all Bush's fault!").

The militarization of the police has a little bit to do with it. But so do lawsuits. This country is desperately in need of tort reform and a great lawyer die off.