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Midland Nazi turns to Islam

Postby Captain_Solo » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:19 pm

This story is about a year and a half old, but it is very interesting.

Midland Nazi turns to Islam

A "Satanic Fuhrer" who urged neo-Nazis to fight a race war has turned full circle to become an Islamic fundamentalist.

Midland-based David Myatt, 51, was the political guru behind white supremacist group Combat 18 and has been the leading hardline Nazi intellectual in Britain since the 1960s.

Now the self-confessed Pagan and Adolf Hitler worshipper hails al Qaida leader Osama bin Laden as his inspiration and praises the World Trade Center attacks as acts of heroism.

Writing under various pseudo-nyms, including his Islamic name Abdul Aziz, the thrice-married Physics graduate has posted messages on Islamic religious websites supporting suicide missions and urging young Muslims to take up Jihad.

He is also believed to be the author of several anti-semitic and anti-West articles entitled 'The Crusader War Against Islam and The Zionist Quest for World Domination', written under the name Abdul Aziz ibn Myatt.

It is a far cry from his previous literary works which included the 1997 fascist terrorist handbook 'The Practical Guide to Aryan Revolution'. The book inspired Brixton nail-bomber David Copeland, who is now serving six life sentences.

According to anti-fascist magazine Searchlight, Myatt was also the Grand Master of a secret occult sect called the Order of the Nine Angels, which was alleged to have practised human sacrifice.

But a Sunday Mercury investigation suggests that his sudden conversion to Islam three years ago may be just a political ploy to advance his own failing anti-establishment agenda.

We discovered that Myatt uses various online identities to simultaneously post supportive messages on right-wing nationalist websites, while calling for the creation of a global Islamic superstate on Islamic religious internet sites.

On one site, Aryan Nation, he attempts to reconcile the differences between both extremes under the title Islamic Liaison Group dating his messages with his trademark yf (Year of the Fuhrer).

On another he argues that Muslims and Aryans share the same common enemy in the Jewish nation and western capitalism, supporting his diatribe with claims that more than 60,000 Muslims joined Hitler's SS in the Second World War.

He also continues to publish newsletters for his own German Nazi-modelled National Socialist Movement (NSM) which counted Copeland as a branch organiser and advocated terrorist insurrection to spark a race war.

On Islamic internet discussion sites he likens the American attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq to the Allied occupation of Hitler's Nazi Germany.

One Muslim internet user told the Sunday Mercury that Myatt, who has an IQ of 187, had convinced other users he was an Islamic scholar with his eloquent arguments backed with Koranic verses.

He said: "After September 11 Abdul Aziz's messages started to become more extreme.

"But because he wrote with authority, many less-knowledgeable Muslims thought he was a holy man and began supporting his fundamentalist views.

"When his true identity was revealed by other users on the site, he changed his online name to Abdul bin Aziz and then al Haqq.

"Other e-mail addresses he used included sheikh@al-qaeda.com.

"He was a very popular and controversial figure until he was unmasked late last year, after which people became much more wary about what he was writing and his messages dried up."

Gerry Gable, from anti-fascist magazine Searchlight, said: "Myatt is an ethereal character who has used numerous aliases to post messages on extremist websites.

"He is a dangerous man who has twice been jailed for his violent right-wing activities and who openly asked for blood to be spilled in the quest for white Aryan domination.

"We believe that despite his claims to be a devout Muslim he remains a deeply intellectual subversive and is still one of the most hardline Nazi intellectuals in Britain today.

"Myatt believes in the disruption of existing societies as a prelude to the creation of a new more warrior-like Aryan society which he calls the Galactic Empire.

"Now he has has simply jumped on the Islamic extremist bandwagon to further his own wish of a society divided on ethnic lines.

"He believes they have common enemies but it is his disillusionment with the ineptitude of the Nazi movement that has led to this most unholy of alliances."

Michael Whine, Chairman of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, added: "Myatt has a long history of involvement with Nazi activity and anti-semitism.

"The fact that he has converted to Islam and allied himself with its extremist fringe is in line with the opportunist politics that have seen him dabble in Buddhism and Chinese Taoism in the past.

"I would advise all Muslims to have nothing to do with this man."

But one hardline Islamic group has defended Myatt and welcomed him with open arms.

Sheikh Omar Bakri, leader of the extremist Al Muhajiroun organisation, said: "When you become a Muslim you start afresh with a clean slate so it does not matter what views he held before.

"I am very keen to meet up with him as we both share a lot in common and I am sure he can help the Islamic cause."

Myatt was last night unavailable for comment, having moved from his Leigh Sinton home in Worcestershire some years ago.

http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100localnews/page.cfm?objectid=12645580&method=full

I've actually talked to Abdul-Aziz ibn Myatt and he is really a cool guy, nothing like this article depicts.
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Postby Aegis » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:43 pm

.... the leading hardline Nazi intellectual in Britain since the 1960s.


An oxymoron if I ever heard one.
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Postby mach1 » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:03 pm

Composer John Tavener, Long Associated with the Orthodox Church, Turns to Islam for Inspiration
By Anthony Barnes
The Independent on Sunday [London] - 17 October 2004


Sir John Tavener, the classical composer whose life and
works have been guided by the principles of the Orthodox
Church for more than two decades, has now turned to
Islam for inspiration.

In 1997 his work found fame around the world when it
was played at the funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales.
The piece, Song for Athene, was written to the rules of the
Orthodox Church, as almost all his work had been since he
converted to the faith in 1977.

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But Sir John says that working to these principles — using
set melodic formulas — became a "tyranny" and that he no
longer wishes to stick to a particular system. He attends
church less regularly than in the past and finds it "trying" to
deal with people who are overly Orthodox.

Last year Sir John had a falling-out with his spiritual muse,
Mother Thekla, a Russian abbess who lives in a North
Yorkshire monastery and whom he used to phone daily.
She also provided the words to some of his works.

At the heart of their disagreement was Sir John's
growing interest in Eastern religions, particularly Hinduism,
and they stopped communicating last year. They have
subsequently begun to exchange letters, but their
relationship has been damaged.

Now he has composed a new choral work based on the
99 names for God in Islam, which are sung in Arabic.
The work is expected to be premiered at Westminster
Cathedral next year.

In an interview with BBC Music magazine, Sir John said
: "Every name has different music to it. There is no
repetition at all. I did want to record my spontaneous
reaction to the Arabic sounds.

"I mean, when you say the names in English — the Vast,
the All-Merciful, the Punisher — they seem ridiculous. In
Arabic they have a resonance."

Asked whether he plans the piece to be a statement of
solidarity with Muslims who have found themselves on the
receiving end of public hostility, he said: "It's possible. I
was appalled by what happened [on 11 September], but I
am more appalled that Islam now has such a terrible
name in some quarters.

"I love the Koran and I wanted to write something that
was an affirmation of Islam rather than these terrible
negations that one sees everywhere."

Although Sir John says he has not lost his faith in God,
he admitted: "I like going to church less and less. It strikes
me now that all religions are as senile as one another. But
I do pray within my heart all the time."

A forthcoming work he is planning to write, as if to
emphasise his new-found freedom from Orthodox principles,
is a theatrical composition based on the life of Krishna and
influenced by Mozart's Magic Flute.

Sir John was formerly signed to the Beatles' Apple record
company, which released his oratorio The Whale in 1968.
The Beatles were themselves influenced by Eastern culture,
particularly George Harrison, who was a Hare Krishna
disciple until his death in 2001.

However, Sir John's biggest breakthrough came 21 years
after The Whale, when his work The Protecting Veil was
performed at the Proms.

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Re: Midland Nazi turns to Islam

Postby el3so » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:14 pm

Captain_Solo wrote: A "Satanic Fuhrer" who urged neo-Nazis to fight a race war has turned full circle to become an Islamic fundamentalist.

Midland-based David Myatt, 51, was the political guru behind white supremacist group Combat 18 and has been the leading hardline Nazi intellectual in Britain since the 1960s.

I've actually talked to Abdul-Aziz ibn Myatt and he is really a cool guy, nothing like this article depicts.
Good he found religion, too bad he still preaches the same hatred.

Combat18? Pretty rough crowd to hang out with...

I'imagine the biggest problem in converting racist skinheads towards Islam would be the whole "no alcohol"-issue ;-)
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Postby patriot » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:30 pm

El3so, you missed the point entirely. He didn't "find" religion. He's using it to further his own twisted agenda of a world divided between racial hatred.

I've actually talked to Abdul-Aziz ibn Myatt and he is really a cool guy, nothing like this article depicts.


What the fuck are you talking about?
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