looks like thigs are getting more interesting

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looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby AztecDave » Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:27 am

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Re: looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby MJK » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:38 pm

It's on the Beeb too…now Putin has cause to deploy S-400 systems and shut the Empire out of the sky in its AO. You know that shit will work as advertised just like the other weapons Russia has recently 'demonstrated'.

I wonder what Erdogan got in exchange for twisting Putin's tail.
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Postby Texas Carnie Roadshow » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:09 pm

watch erdoğan start a fucking war
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Postby ReptilianKittenEater » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:57 am

When I first heard it I thought it was the typical Putin penis wagging in violating another country's airspace. Not that I object to a couple of miGs being introduced to the bottom of the Artic Ocean, but Erdogen is fucking stupid and is about to get bitch slapped. The planes were on active manouvres and were in Turkish space for a few seconds if at all. Anyone know who they were bombing other than Turkey's pets?
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Re: looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby MJK » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:05 am

Fairly good thumbnail sketching at ZeroHedge about Balil Erdogan running the ISIS oil game. One poster there suggested the Russkies 'liberate' Cyprus as payback.
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Re: looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby snaark » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:31 pm

Turkey is hardly the Ukraine. Even without NATO it's more than capable of defending itself. Vlad can't afford a real war so he's probably just going to take this out on the dog...
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Re: looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby MJK » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:58 am

They are alike in that both are pathocracies. There is a current school of thought that Turkey, in NATO solely as a buffer to the USSR will ride a boot out of NATO for this and getting caught buying/moving ISIS oil. He must be makin' bank to accept the financial losses Turkey will incur as Putin sits on their collective face. And when it comes to the cost of war everybody can afford to go 4G. The next dog to get kicked will be an Anatolian.
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Re: looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby Farmdog » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:40 pm

The NATO game isn't that simple. Keep in mind that partners in the east very carefully monitor how treaties and alliances are executed. Not honoring an obligation to Turkey would tip the entire Pacific to China. Mustafa Kamal's name may come back to haunt the current leadership, the military could return to preeminence and crush the Islamist in the name of old school Turkish nationalism.
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Re: looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby snaark » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:50 am

Nobody has cancelled any gas or pipeline deals yet, which suggests this isn't going to get past the sabre rattling stage. Both Russia and Turkey are in recession at the moment. Neither can afford the financial or political cost of escalation. The whole "Turkey shot down.our plane to cover up the fact they are buying oil from ISIS" rhetoric is amusing though.
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Re: looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby Texas Carnie Roadshow » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:16 am

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Re: looks like thigs are getting more interesting

Postby nowonmai » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:08 am

Russia Today has been doing a good number on Nusra guys (ie. AQ) and IS allegedly getting medical attention at Turkish hospitals in Hatay. Unfortunately they have burned RT as a credible channel by being such bellends about everything else, but nevertheless if they keep dishing it could get a bit uncomfortable for Mr Turk because I don't think clapham omnibus people have really cottoned onto their games. Mind you, who really cares anyway. Dangerous region, shit happens, move on etc.
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