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ReptilianKittenEater wrote:If losing a fight means extermination, people tend to put up a good fight.
ReptilianKittenEater wrote:If losing a fight means extermination, people tend to put up a good fight.
seektravelinfo wrote:Kurt wrote:ReptilianKittenEater wrote:If losing a fight means extermination, people tend to put up a good fight.
They actually have to think they are more important than the people wiping them out first...when they do, then they do tend to fight.
That is an interesting take. Controversial, as it suggests that low-self esteem is at the root of being overrun.
Q wrote:Weren't you the one on about Assad being some chinless dentist back when this all started?
Kurt wrote:We've always sucked in the middle east. The only thing we have ever been good at is supporting a Strongman and now we deny our ability to do that because it is immoral, but then we go on and fuck up royally as if that is supposed to be better.
The true evil of the US is not that it goes out and says "hey, there's a bad guy, lets prop him up" As bad as that is, it would make some sense. People could work within that framework, be they us, other nations or local opposition. What we cannot do at all is "bring democracy and good governance to the region" when we do that we make things worse, and create a situation that only a strongman can correct.
I really think we need to adopt an official foreign policy of "I'm sorry, We'd like to, but we are busy with other things now" with the hard right taking the stance of "We'd really like to but we got to get our shit together" with the hard left saying "We are not interested, but if we were, we have to build roads or some shit first. You know how it goes" And with the radical opposition demanding we be less polite in saying "No".
But in our world failure succeeds, smart people are demonized and useless fuckers are turned into a swiss army knife of bad choices (I saw John Bolton commenting on stuff and getting paid to do so last week). So its not gonna happen.
And The Brits gotta stop saying "You gotta do something....LOL you are doing the wrong thing." as if the results of what you want are a surprise.
Q wrote:Kurt wrote:We've always sucked in the middle east. The only thing we have ever been good at is supporting a Strongman and now we deny our ability to do that because it is immoral, but then we go on and fuck up royally as if that is supposed to be better.
The true evil of the US is not that it goes out and says "hey, there's a bad guy, lets prop him up" As bad as that is, it would make some sense. People could work within that framework, be they us, other nations or local opposition. What we cannot do at all is "bring democracy and good governance to the region" when we do that we make things worse, and create a situation that only a strongman can correct.
I really think we need to adopt an official foreign policy of "I'm sorry, We'd like to, but we are busy with other things now" with the hard right taking the stance of "We'd really like to but we got to get our shit together" with the hard left saying "We are not interested, but if we were, we have to build roads or some shit first. You know how it goes" And with the radical opposition demanding we be less polite in saying "No".
But in our world failure succeeds, smart people are demonized and useless fuckers are turned into a swiss army knife of bad choices (I saw John Bolton commenting on stuff and getting paid to do so last week). So its not gonna happen.
And The Brits gotta stop saying "You gotta do something....LOL you are doing the wrong thing." as if the results of what you want are a surprise.
The US has sucked at FP in the Middle East because they are stuck shoring up Israel. That's the fast, and accurate, answer.
If you want to dig into the real meat of it, it boils down to having to deal with the mess the Brits caused there. Which, shockingly I know, still comes back to Israel.
But, so long as the cuckolds in the US and UK are willing to keep sending their kids off to the slaughter, for that shitty little strip of land, you're just moving deck chairs on the Titanic by pointing out the obvious.
Assad is a hero. He's spanked the shit out of the little girls who run the US/UK/Israel and KSA.
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