Outbreak...

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Postby Lost Boy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:49 pm

el3so wrote:Seriously, take care man and hope you all are well. Kudos on the LEO gig too. Me I'm fine.


Thanks amigo.
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Postby Lost Boy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:50 pm

el3so wrote:
El Pelon wrote:folks are making use of the stimulus checks that started hitting bank accounts as they order guns at a "feverish" pace.
That's punny.

No stimulus (yet), money keeps coming in thank Gud. Groceries are a lot cheaper than eating out. So is drinking at home. No dry-cleaning, housekeeper or (new) clothing. Pornhub premium is free. Figure I'll lose most of what I save either to taxes or on the stock market ;-)

Firearm possesion is a bit different over here.


What are gun laws like in Belgium?
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Postby el3so » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:25 pm

Lost Boy wrote:What are gun laws like in Belgium?
Default legislation is inverse of your second Amendment: weapons in general are prohibited. There have been reforms with little to no push-back after a spree killing in 2006 and subsequent amnesty periods the past 15 or so years.

In short, Joe/Jane Q Public has two possible exceptions to this specifically in regards to firearms: hunting (35% in the more rural parts with the majority of license holders, mostly shotguns) and sport shooting purposes (pistols, rifles).
Both require some legal hoops to be jumped through ("permit" requires lessons, medical fitness and lack of criminal convictions/record) and are temporary (requiring actually hunting resp regular practice/being in a gun club, 5 year validity).

Further (niche) exceptions exist for collectors, re-enactors and for historic purposes (black powder).
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Postby el3so » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:34 am

Revived because El Pelon totally called it.

I already had the TP supply down, been tuned towards stocking up on base foodstuffs ever since seeing "little Dieter wants to fly". The real trick is condiments and fresh produce. Still don't grow my ow onions.
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby El Pelon » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:12 am

I'm pretty sure there's another one in the works but I'm not sure yet exactly which bug it'll be. At the moment I'm keeping an eye on Marburg (which kicked up in Guinea) but there have been a few flashes in the pan with ebola and Monkey Pox as well over the past months. Time will tell. For now, just keep taking vitamin C, D, Zinc and you may want to throw in White Pine Needle Tea.

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Marburg virus outbreak: All you need to know about the Ebola-like disease
By - TIMESOFINDIA.COMUpdated: Aug 12, 2021, 14:43 IST
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Marburg virus outbreak: All you need to know about the Ebola-like disease
Though the world is slowly getting back to normal, the fear of coronavirus still prevails. Adding to this, there have emerged many new viruses and fungi, which have made life difficult for all of us.
The fears over the outbreak of another virus - the Marburg virus have been heightened after the revelation that the man who caught the virus last week has died and might have spread it to 155 more people.
The first case of the disease has appeared in Guinea in West Africa. Experts believe that it's an Ebola-like disease, which can be 88 per cent fatal and yet has no cure or treatment. It's a matter of concern as the disease can spread far and wide.
Health authorities in West Africa are now monitoring the 155 people who might have come in contact with the infected person. The person died in Gueckedou in Southeastern Guinea, which was also the location of the 2014-2016 West Africa Ebola Outbreak.
The potential transmission of virus between bat colonies and humans also pose an increased risk for cross-border spread. This suggests high risk at the national level, requiring immediate and coordinated response with support from international partners.
The risk associated with the global level is low.
Here is everything you need to know about the Marburg virus.
Marburg and Ebola are closely related and get transmitted between humans usually through contact with blood or other bodily fluids. The fatality rate for the Marburg virus in the past outbreaks has varied from 24 per cent to 88 per cent of those infected.
The only difference between Ebola and Marburg is that there is yet no specific drug or vaccine available for the Marburg virus. There is only supportive care.
Marburg disease is a highly contagious one and causes hemorrhagic fever. The two large outbreaks that occurred simultaneously in Marburg and Frankfurt in the year 1967 led to the initial recognition of the disease. The outbreak was associated with laboratory work using African green monkeys imported from Uganda, reports the World Health Organisation.
Human infection with Marburg virus disease initially is the result of prolonged exposure to mines or caves inhabited by Rousettus bat colonies. Once an individual is infected with the virus, it can spread through human to human transmission via direct contact like broken skin, mucus, secretions, blood and from surfaces and materials contaminated with these fluids.
Treatment
Early supportive care with rehydration and symptomatic treatment increases the chances of survival. There is no licensed treatment to neutralise the virus. But various blood products, immune therapies and drug therapies are currently under development.
Symptoms of Marburg virus disease
The incubation period varies from 2 to 21 days. The initial symptoms of the virus include high fever, severe headache and severe malaise. Muscle aches and pains are common features. Abdominal cramps, pain, severe watery diarrhoea, nausea might also begin on the third day. Diarrhoea may persist for a week. The appearance of the patients at this time when infected with the virus has been described as showing "ghost-like" drawn features, deep-set eyes, extreme lethargy and expressionless face.
Fatal cases usually have some form of bleeding, often from multiple areas. Fresh blood from vomiting and faeces along with nose gums and vagina is also seen. Involvement of the central nervous system can result in confusion, irritability and aggression.
In severe cases, death occurs most often between 8 and 9 days after symptoms onset.
Diagnosis
It is difficult to clinically distinguish MVD from other forms of infectious diseases like malaria, typhoid fever, meningitis, shigellosis and viral haemorrhagic fever. The diagnostic methods used to confirm the viral infection are made using the following diagnostic methods.
- Antibody capture enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay
- Antigen-capture detection tests
- Serum neutralization test
- Reverse transcriptase-polymerase chain (RT-PCR) assay
- Electron microscopy
- Virus isolated by cell culture
The samples collected from patients are an extreme biohazard risk. All the specimens should be packaged using the triple packaging system when transported nationally and internationally.
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby ROB » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:16 pm

El Pelon wrote: Monkey Pox


Ours was a forbidden love.

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Re: Outbreak...

Postby el3so » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:14 pm

ROB wrote:
El Pelon wrote: Monkey Pox
Ours was a forbidden love.
Intercourse was bananas, right?
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby Kurt » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:17 pm

el3so wrote:
ROB wrote:
El Pelon wrote: Monkey Pox
Ours was a forbidden love.
Intercourse was bananas, right?


That was brilliant but it should not have been.
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby sparrow » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:48 am

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Re: Outbreak...

Postby sparrow » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:20 am

When did YOU become a 3rd world country? 2 years into it and here we are.
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And everyone acts like this is normal.

Very strange.
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby ROB » Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:55 pm

What went down that USA is faring worse than India? I am hoping under reporting?
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby Kurt » Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:23 pm

ROB wrote:What went down that USA is faring worse than India? I am hoping under reporting?


I actually think our clusterfuck of failure and idiocy is better than India's.

USA! USA! USA!

I went to my home state of Wisconsin this week and even among people who are "pro-mask" no one wore masks when inside. I'd get the "we are not like the other states" and I would say "So you mask up in the Grocery store and at the bar?" "No, I am vaccinated"

I think when the portable morgue trailers are located outside of where people live they fail to see what can happen if everyone fucks up at the same time.

I know Oz has had riots and stuff but you should just ignore the root cause. The rest of the world are diseased idiots, even those claiming to be smart. Once something deadly evolves that can run through reckless vaxxed and non-vaxxed alike Oz and NZ will be glad that a few people got pissy in the streets.
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby snaark » Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:57 pm

I know Oz has had riots and stuff but you should just ignore the root cause. The rest of the world are diseased idiots, even those claiming to be smart. Once something deadly evolves that can run through reckless vaxxed and non-vaxxed alike Oz and NZ will be glad that a few people got pissy in the streets.


I actually think Australia fucked up at least as badly as the US and the EU. Yes, they have avoided a large body count (so far), but this has less to do with good management and more with geography and a willingness to throw a minority under the bus so that the majority could continue life as normal. Australia also did fuck all to prepare for vaccination, despite having it's own pharma industry (they started producing vaccines under license from Astrazeneca only in March). The result: Melbourne has been in hard lockdown for a total of more than 200 days since the start of the pandemic. Flying interstate is extremely difficult and overseas travel all but impossible. So yeah, I can understand why people are pissed.
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby Kurt » Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:03 pm

I understand getting pissy too but with a mostly "invisible" virus people are prone to be typical people and think of some way they are not vulnerable to it or need a "cheat day" (a thing here in NYC). But if there was flooding or a storm or something obvious no one would be pissy if they said "Stay home for a bit" or "if you try to drive in flooded streets you will have to pay for your rescue"

Avoiding a high body count = Success. and another indicator of success is to worry that you may have over-reacted since it ended up not being that bad in the first place.

I do not think anyone is going to have a perfect response but I think we can identify a better response than others and I think Oz and NZ have been better.
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Re: Outbreak...

Postby snaark » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:38 pm

Kurt wrote:I do not think anyone is going to have a perfect response but I think we can identify a better response than others and I think Oz and NZ have been better.


In the beginning, sure. But they squandered their lead. There's no excuse for a country as wealthy as Australia to have fucked up their vaccination campaign as much as they have. Christ, even the EU figured it out eventually. And the "zero covid" approach is fine when the virus isn't that contagious. With delta its not working anymore. Australia is now having their worst outbreak ever, despite all the lockdowns.
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