Kurt wrote:Now Parler is located in the Russian Controlled Crimea as part of Maksym Sabat'ev's online businesses which include UK based companies that use Russian bandwith from iPipe.net.
Any dirt on Epik?
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Kurt wrote:Now Parler is located in the Russian Controlled Crimea as part of Maksym Sabat'ev's online businesses which include UK based companies that use Russian bandwith from iPipe.net.
Chimborazo wrote:Apparently they have a backup site running and should be back up within the next few days.I took a peak at the General Discussion forum a few days ago and it's pretty much what I expected. GD was a lot of fun when Imbroglio and McUzi were around...the latter was hilarious. I stopped going there years ago when they took on the "hive mind" mentality, drank the Kool Aid, and became a more deluded version of Democratic Underground, which they despised.
Kurt wrote:But financial institutions are obliged to prevent a threat to democratic processes, so since this was a coup attempt
And now for my gloat: Back when I was an anti-Globalization protester this was just the kind of shit we objected to, being subjected to the laws of another nation because of trade agreements. We got the shit kicked out of us, ended up on no-fly lists, were called Commies, unpatriotic, anti-cop and yet never blubbled like an infant in an airport, yet somehow we were called "Snowflakes" hahahahah check out #NoFlyList twitter for some serious crying.
Tarkan wrote:Kurt wrote:But financial institutions are obliged to prevent a threat to democratic processes, so since this was a coup attempt
Except it wasn't. It was a protest and a riot.And now for my gloat: Back when I was an anti-Globalization protester this was just the kind of shit we objected to, being subjected to the laws of another nation because of trade agreements. We got the shit kicked out of us, ended up on no-fly lists, were called Commies, unpatriotic, anti-cop and yet never blubbled like an infant in an airport, yet somehow we were called "Snowflakes" hahahahah check out #NoFlyList twitter for some serious crying.
Most of the NoFlyList videos have nothing to do with Jan-6. If people were really on no fly lists, they wouldn't even get ticketed.
Instead of exercising his commander-in-chief duties to help protect the Capitol from an attempted insurrection, Trump watched the attack play out on television. Though not necessarily enjoying himself, he was “bemused” by the spectacle because he thought his supporters were literally fighting for him, according to a close adviser. But, this person said, he was turned off by what he considered the “low-class” spectacle of people in ragtag costumes rummaging through the Capitol.
Tarkan wrote:Except it wasn't. It was a protest and a riot.
ROB wrote:Tarkan wrote:Except it wasn't. It was a protest and a riot.
Why?
Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:Kurt wrote:But financial institutions are obliged to prevent a threat to democratic processes, so since this was a coup attempt
Except it wasn't. It was a protest and a riot.And now for my gloat: Back when I was an anti-Globalization protester this was just the kind of shit we objected to, being subjected to the laws of another nation because of trade agreements. We got the shit kicked out of us, ended up on no-fly lists, were called Commies, unpatriotic, anti-cop and yet never blubbled like an infant in an airport, yet somehow we were called "Snowflakes" hahahahah check out #NoFlyList twitter for some serious crying.
Most of the NoFlyList videos have nothing to do with Jan-6. If people were really on no fly lists, they wouldn't even get ticketed.
You object to being on a No-Fly list then you don't fly. If you offer to discuss and go through extra security you fly.
And it was a Putsch. The world sees it as such because it was.
I have been through two coups. One in Turkey trying to prevent Erdogan from taking power via the Refah Partisi in 1994. I got my ear drums blown to shit for that one by having a kebab next to a bomb in a concrete enforced trash can. The other one was in Haiti in 2001.
The Haitian one was a few ex Military officers in a car that were going to storm the palace. One accidentally blew the other's head off in the car they were waiting (presumably for others to arrive) but when their buddy shot their other buddy, the presidential guard lit the car up and you had 4 dead coup plotters sitting in a White Honda with their eyes and mouths open and their necks crooked up. It was weird cuz they all looked like they were waiting to be fed by a bird.
But it was a pussy coup because it failed. Everyone thinks a coup is or a putsche is all tanks and uniforms and hut-hut-hut but really is it the safety of a gun being off while car pooling. A bunch of idiots, some with flexicuffs (for antifa...not for murdering elected representatives).
How about this: If Nancy Pelosi had been in her office would she have been safe when they broke in?
Anyway back to Coups I have seen.
In Turkey the Military just said "Enough of that" and started arresting Islamists and Communists. I was at a Communist bar watching Beavis and Butthead when the secret police came in. My US Passport saved my butt and everyone else in the Bar's butt too. 2 days later was when I was in the retaliatory bomb blast that was blamed on the Greeks (though only the supporters of the Military believed that).
It's a Coup. Its a Putsch. It does not fit your definition of one because you are an advocate for the actions in the Capitol on January 6th and you believe the election was stolen from Trump in spite of the the massive amount of evidence it was not.
Have I told you guys I am opposed to human trafficking lately?Tarkan wrote:I'm actually *not* an advocate for the actions in the Capitol on the 6th.
Trespassing, breaking and entry, received fair warnings yet kept escalating. Single clean shot. We do crowd control differently but if that happened over here, she probably would be hurt but alive.Tarkan wrote:I think the shooting of Ashli Babbit was probably egregious, but she *was* sticking her head through a busted window and apparently there were VIPs right around the corner being protected by the cop, so it's sort of understandable.
Tarkan wrote:
Why was it a protest and riot or why was it a coup?
It was a protest, because that's what it started out as. It was a riot, because that's what it became.
If it had been a coup attempt, the Capitol police would have easily been overrun. There were >10,000 people in that crowd.
There was no real agenda, other than protesting certification, and no organization to actually do anything or achieve anything.
One guy having flexcuffs and another guy having molotovs and an AR in his truck does not a coup make. Trump telling the crowd to go protest, peacefully, the certification, is not inciting violence.
Coups aren't composed of protesters, ever. They are composed of military or government leaders or police taking out the rival politicians and leaders, or overthrowing the legitimate government.
That is what the investigations should help clear up. Feds are trying to look busy, the data trail to those who feel they have things to lose after all should be overwhelming. I bet they will sing.Tarkan wrote:There was no real agenda, other than protesting certification, and no organization to actually do anything or achieve anything
People have been sent to Guantanamo for less. Why bring those to what is supposed to be a political event? Violently attempting to disrupt an electoral process has a sinister ring to it. Not the kind of thing ROTW expected to see happen in the USA.Tarkan wrote: another guy having molotovs and an AR in his truck does not a coup make.
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