el3so wrote:el3so wrote:Kurt wrote: no group that started on US soil is now a terrorist group in the US.
Begging to differ.
Straight from the Fed's site back in 2002. All the usual suspects are mentioned by name in the part under "domestic terrorism".
Kept half an eye on current hearings, I guess I was wrong. Domestic terrorism isn't a legal term.
Regardless, feds say they are building cases against specifically members of oath-keepers and proud boys. Hope the court sessions are public, should be good for a laugh.
Interesting stuff. Anyone down to bet on who is snitching?
Snitching? I called Tarrio as a snitch before it was revealed that he was an old pro at snitching from way back.
The weird thing I have noticed since Tarrio got busted is "Loaded Magazine without Weapon". Pink Hat Lady had one of those too. It's either Fed Semiphore for "This is a snitch now" or certain people were designated as reloading points for a larger plot that might not have been able to come together.
From my experience, typically a snitch is someone who also had hard drug. Another big one is a separate arrest for Domestic Violence.
With these groups the Feds like their snitches to be leaders and not rank and file jackoffs. The regular jackoffs tend to confess right away or think they can "say magical words" about jurisdiction or excuses that will get them off. Like that guy who sat in Pelosi's chair from Arkansas. He said he was "looking for the bathroom" and that he did not steal a letter on her desk but rather he got "blood on an envelope" and "left a quarter" to pay for it.
I can see the Feds questioning him and making like they are his friends "Oh yah, Say that! Tell us that you were in there looking for the bathroom. No one will charge you then and if they do a jury will totally believe that. Now, just give us details exactly how you came into the Capitol building while looking for a bathroom. I mean, I bet you were aware it was restricted but when you gotta go you gotta go, right? Besides someone just left the door open. Everyone else was going in. We are not looking for guys like you, we want the ones who opened the door. Just tell us everything in an approximate timeline as to where you were at the legally permitted rally until you left the Capitol building"
Btw in 2000 at the Republican Convention in Philly, a guy we knew was a skilled actor. Like most skilled actors nothing came of his career in acting but he had done some theater in NYC and bit parts on Law & Order. When the cops in Philly busted him for walking on the sidewalk without a permit he was made to sit in a van for 8 hours and then during the interrogations he saw that defiant people who were not afraid of the cops get taken to holding.
So he started crying. Like wailing weeping. He was an actor and could turn it on in an instant. Apparently the cops liked to break "tough guys" and the loved it when a dude would start to gently sob and be embarrassed and try to hide it, but they could not handle full-bore crying. They screamed at him to shut up. Slapped him like he was a hysterical 1950s woman in a detective movie and finally just gave up and let him go.
These days I assume cops are used to weeping men but 21 years ago it was a mind-fuck to them, especially when processing a mass arrest.
If the capitol 1776-ers (The American Revolution started in 1775 but ...facts...who needs 'em?) studied lefties a bit more instead of trying to pal around with the cops who were interrogating them there would be a lot more of them let go and probably with no or minor charges.
