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ROB wrote:sparrow wrote:Tarkan wrote:
As compared to someone like Joe Biden, who somehow managed to pull crowds of less than 10 to his rallies, but managed to get more votes than Obama ever did. That wasn't an unabashed and aggressive power grab. Nope, not at all.
You really do live in an alternative universe don't you?
Suits his "alternative facts" I guess.
Tarkan wrote:ROB wrote:sparrow wrote:Tarkan wrote:
As compared to someone like Joe Biden, who somehow managed to pull crowds of less than 10 to his rallies, but managed to get more votes than Obama ever did. That wasn't an unabashed and aggressive power grab. Nope, not at all.
You really do live in an alternative universe don't you?
Suits his "alternative facts" I guess.
I really do live in an alternative universe.
sparrow wrote:
Side note to others here: Why don't these people fucking see it? The duplicity, the mendacity. The evil, frankly, I just don't get it.
Fück that. You go to user control panel, put Tarkan in your Foes or you send everyone else a PM. None of that side note sh!t.sparrow wrote: Side note to others here
To be fair, it's pretty much a two party system, easy to shift from being "for one" into "against the other". (Social) media isn't helping much in that matter either.Dabbi wrote:Just kidding, the people who believe these nonsense lies are either as dumb as a bag of rocks or mentally unstable.
I lean for a mixture of both.
Kurt wrote:sparrow wrote:
Side note to others here: Why don't these people fucking see it? The duplicity, the mendacity. The evil, frankly, I just don't get it.
They are not done.
Re: posturing. Two aspects.
1. Election was stolen argument. By amassing evidence in this regard, the intent isn't to overturn the election and install Trump, the intent is to 1) delegitimize Biden and any downstream elected Democrats (e.g., the two D Senators in Georgia), and 2) push for the implementation of laws, controls, and measures that would prevent D controlled municipalities / counties from swinging an entire state's electoral votes.
2. Motivating the base. Even cynical Republicans who don't buy the stolen election theory will be sorely tested to stoke the flames in order to mobilize Trump voters to turn out to "take our country back".
Kurt wrote:If the evidence is not used to overturn the election then why does Trump say he is going to be re-instated in August? (according to Maggie Haberman of the NYT)
Someone is going to get violent again and it will be because of Trump , Flynn and whomever saying "kill them...Just kidding...I wasn't kidding but I am kidding" in that mealy indirect "save my butt" wuss speak they do.
Remember that Democratic Control Municipalities don't swing the elections.
But I suppose this provides us with insight into how the average Republican justifies voter suppression: They think that sizable Democratic voting areas are by default illegitimate.
Tarkan wrote:I suppose it's coincidental that precincts in Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Detroit ALL paused counting the night of the election until all of the other state returns came in and - like magic, came up with just enough votes in the right % to flip the race to Biden the next day.
ROB wrote:Tarkan wrote:I suppose it's coincidental that precincts in Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Detroit ALL paused counting the night of the election until all of the other state returns came in and - like magic, came up with just enough votes in the right % to flip the race to Biden the next day.
Take it to your stacked court.
Oh that's right, you already tried and they thought you were full of shit too.
Tarkan wrote:This may shock you, but Trump loves to troll pretty much everyone. If he's actually saying that he's going to be re-instated in August, this is almost certainly the reason. Then again, maybe he's in an echo chamber and people are feeding him this nonsense.
Kurt wrote:See? Everyone is against Trump. Unfairly of course.
Tarkan wrote:This may shock you, but Trump loves to troll pretty much everyone. If he's actually saying that he's going to be re-instated in August, this is almost certainly the reason. Then again, maybe he's in an echo chamber and people are feeding him this nonsense.
When someone says they are at war with you, then you take them at face value. Trump is too chickenshit to say it that directly because he knows he will land in the pokey but his team of expendables, the "rough" crowd that will do anything he says or thinks he says, they will be the ones who get shot, get arrested and get locked up.
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