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Appreciate the snow queen reference because it's a dog whistle for her being a frigid bitch.ROB wrote: let it go
ROB wrote:Jesus, if anyone in history needs to just let it go, it's Hillary.
Kurt wrote:ROB wrote:Jesus, if anyone in history needs to just let it go, it's Hillary.
Agreed.
She would have been respected (not by me for Clinton Foundation reasons) if she had bowed out after her time in the Obama administration.
I knew something was up when Houma Abedin (her Secretary) came out with a book about her bad taste in men. I suspect the Clinton's tried to run Chelsea and were laughed out of straw polls and then perhaps they wanted to get that book published and run Houma for something and then realized that would not work either. So they are stuck with a career politician who only won one election (after Senator Moynihan campaigned for her as his retirement approached.) and played spoiler to every grassroots Democratic party movement ever.
Trump split and then consolidated the Republican party, Clinton will just split the Democrats.
Tarkan wrote:Kurt wrote:ROB wrote:Jesus, if anyone in history needs to just let it go, it's Hillary.
Agreed.
She would have been respected (not by me for Clinton Foundation reasons) if she had bowed out after her time in the Obama administration.
I knew something was up when Houma Abedin (her Secretary) came out with a book about her bad taste in men. I suspect the Clinton's tried to run Chelsea and were laughed out of straw polls and then perhaps they wanted to get that book published and run Houma for something and then realized that would not work either. So they are stuck with a career politician who only won one election (after Senator Moynihan campaigned for her as his retirement approached.) and played spoiler to every grassroots Democratic party movement ever.
Trump split and then consolidated the Republican party, Clinton will just split the Democrats.
The people that Trump split from the GOP weren't really conservatives. The glee and energy with which people like Bill Kristol threw their weight behind leftwing Democrats is testimony to that. They were like spurned women in that regard. They were the conservative establishment intelligentsia for so long, they couldn't comprehend that the base no longer saw the good in enriching the owners of Blackrock et al at the expense of middle America (globalism good! offshoring good!), and decided to punish the little people for voting the wrong way.
Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:Kurt wrote:ROB wrote:Jesus, if anyone in history needs to just let it go, it's Hillary.
Agreed.
She would have been respected (not by me for Clinton Foundation reasons) if she had bowed out after her time in the Obama administration.
I knew something was up when Houma Abedin (her Secretary) came out with a book about her bad taste in men. I suspect the Clinton's tried to run Chelsea and were laughed out of straw polls and then perhaps they wanted to get that book published and run Houma for something and then realized that would not work either. So they are stuck with a career politician who only won one election (after Senator Moynihan campaigned for her as his retirement approached.) and played spoiler to every grassroots Democratic party movement ever.
Trump split and then consolidated the Republican party, Clinton will just split the Democrats.
The people that Trump split from the GOP weren't really conservatives. The glee and energy with which people like Bill Kristol threw their weight behind leftwing Democrats is testimony to that. They were like spurned women in that regard. They were the conservative establishment intelligentsia for so long, they couldn't comprehend that the base no longer saw the good in enriching the owners of Blackrock et al at the expense of middle America (globalism good! offshoring good!), and decided to punish the little people for voting the wrong way.
Also conservatives have no fortitude.
Kristol called himself "Neo-Con" since he was always pro-Big state and always pro-intervention. The Neo Cons are just looking for another host in which to leech off of.
But the Neocons have had a split. Ledeen is pro-Trump. The sex dungeon guy with the mustache was Pro-Trump and Trump was Pro-Neocon until it suited neither of them.
Neocons (gee, I seem to remember people who brought up this group in the Gulf War II being accused of being anti-Semites for mentioning that Neoncons existed at all) follow a Trotskyist / Bolshevik ideal of having a goal and then moving to multiple parties and groups to achieve that goal. The Claremont split from the American Enterprise Institute is going to be temporary. Kristol will be joining Republicans again once the Trumpers implode.
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