56 years ago that hero climbed that tower in Texas

[ROB]

Considering the stories coming out about just how badly the cops fucked up here, disarming law abiding citizens and putting my family’s safety further in the hands of cops with qualified immunity who don’t give a shit about you or your family seems like a really stupid idea.

Yeah, much better to expect Betty the librarian and Shanile the lunch lady to use their pea shooters to hunt down a dude with an AR15 like they're Dirty fucking Harry.

Fuck you are a clown.

[Kurt]

Considering the stories coming out about just how badly the cops fucked up here, disarming law abiding citizens and putting my family’s safety further in the hands of cops with qualified immunity who don’t give a shit about you or your family seems like a really stupid idea.

What do you think would have happened had armed, law abiding citizens approached the scene with an AR-15 hoping to go in there and save the kids?

I am also curious as to what people who worry about " disarming" citizens think it will happen? I dont think there is the time or resources to just go get them. Plus it would be crazy dangerous.

[seektravelinfo]

I am also curious as to what people who worry about " disarming" citizens think it will happen? I dont think there is the time or resources to just go get them. Plus it would be crazy dangerous.

What if ……… every gun purchased & presumably registered required a fee to be paid into a national victim compensation fund, with an annual renewal fee as well. Then later, in order to purchase ammunition proof of fees paid required to be shown. Failure to pay the fees to result in forfeiture of gun license and denial of hunting permits.

In order to legally smoke marijuana in my state I was required to pay $250 for a medical consultation fee (doc allowed to keep part of it, rest went to the state) AND a $60 license fee. Rinse & repeat per annum.

Every year I must pay to renew my car license plates and every 4 years I must pay to renew my driver license, as well as paying auto insurance as required by law.

It’s fair. Freedom isn’t free.

[rickshaw92]

That seems like a lot of effort just to smoke a bit of dope Seeks.

[Kurt]

I am also curious as to what people who worry about " disarming" citizens think it will happen? I dont think there is the time or resources to just go get them. Plus it would be crazy dangerous.

What if ……… every gun purchased & presumably registered required a fee to be paid into a national victim compensation fund, with an annual renewal fee as well. Then later, in order to purchase ammunition proof of fees paid required to be shown. Failure to pay the fees to result in forfeiture of gun license and denial of hunting permits.

In order to legally smoke marijuana in my state I was required to pay $250 for a medical consultation fee (doc allowed to keep part of it, rest went to the state) AND a $60 license fee. Rinse & repeat per annum.

Every year I must pay to renew my car license plates and every 4 years I must pay to renew my driver license, as well as paying auto insurance as required by law.

It’s fair. Freedom isn’t free.

If I buy a boring ass car that cannot hit 80mph I still gotta buy liability insurance and in NYC i gotta buy "no fault" insurance (means if my mirrors gets knocked out when parked that my insurance has gotta pay but it is not considered mine or anyone elses fault). If i buy a stupid fast car I gotta pay more.

We should do the same for guns. Dont take any away, just demand liability insurance.
If 18 year olds can buy an AR 15 no problem, but if an insurance company wont insure an 18 year old then the sale cant go through.

[SRR]

I mean, Chris Rock has been advocating for bullet control for over a decade and no one seems to listen:

[Kurt]

That seems like a lot of effort just to smoke a bit of dope Seeks.

Its almost impossible to get busted for it now. Unless you do an illegal grow and Uhaul it across Nebraska.

In NYC i can walk around with 3oz and have 1/2 lb in my house. I can smoke it ouside wherever cigs are permitted.

it starts with the medical stuff first then evolves.

Still illegal in the UK?

[rickshaw92]

Still illegal over here though I don't bother with it anymore.

[seektravelinfo]

That seems like a lot of effort just to smoke a bit of dope Seeks.

It’s just more convenient for me to purchase from a dispensary.

[Tarkan]

I am also curious as to what people who worry about " disarming" citizens think it will happen? I dont think there is the time or resources to just go get them. Plus it would be crazy dangerous.

What if ……… every gun purchased & presumably registered required a fee to be paid into a national victim compensation fund, with an annual renewal fee as well. Then later, in order to purchase ammunition proof of fees paid required to be shown. Failure to pay the fees to result in forfeiture of gun license and denial of hunting permits.

In order to legally smoke marijuana in my state I was required to pay $250 for a medical consultation fee (doc allowed to keep part of it, rest went to the state) AND a $60 license fee. Rinse & repeat per annum.

Every year I must pay to renew my car license plates and every 4 years I must pay to renew my driver license, as well as paying auto insurance as required by law.

It’s fair. Freedom isn’t free.

If I buy a boring ass car that cannot hit 80mph I still gotta buy liability insurance and in NYC i gotta buy "no fault" insurance (means if my mirrors gets knocked out when parked that my insurance has gotta pay but it is not considered mine or anyone elses fault). If i buy a stupid fast car I gotta pay more.

Mandatory insurance is a lot like mandatory inspections. It's less about safety and more about government regulatory capture leading to government enforced revenue streams for insurance companies and state inspection companies.

[Kurt]

I am also curious as to what people who worry about " disarming" citizens think it will happen? I dont think there is the time or resources to just go get them. Plus it would be crazy dangerous.

What if ……… every gun purchased & presumably registered required a fee to be paid into a national victim compensation fund, with an annual renewal fee as well. Then later, in order to purchase ammunition proof of fees paid required to be shown. Failure to pay the fees to result in forfeiture of gun license and denial of hunting permits.

In order to legally smoke marijuana in my state I was required to pay $250 for a medical consultation fee (doc allowed to keep part of it, rest went to the state) AND a $60 license fee. Rinse & repeat per annum.

Every year I must pay to renew my car license plates and every 4 years I must pay to renew my driver license, as well as paying auto insurance as required by law.

It’s fair. Freedom isn’t free.

If I buy a boring ass car that cannot hit 80mph I still gotta buy liability insurance and in NYC i gotta buy "no fault" insurance (means if my mirrors gets knocked out when parked that my insurance has gotta pay but it is not considered mine or anyone elses fault). If i buy a stupid fast car I gotta pay more.

Mandatory insurance is a lot like mandatory inspections. It's less about safety and more about government regulatory capture leading to government enforced revenue streams for insurance companies and state inspection companies.

I have lived in States that have no mandatory inspections but they still have mandatory liability insurance. If someone gets in an accident without it then they go bankrupt and maybe get a fine for not having it, but then the County would pay for the hospital bills of the injured (after the injured declines the bill) so it does not seem like that is really a revenue generator for the state.

[Tarkan]

It's not a revenue generator for the state, it's a revenue generator for the insurance companies - who lobby/bribe the state legislatures to pass laws favorable to their industry. Regulatory and political capture is also one of the reasons why we don't have a national insurance market and everything is split up state by state - because it benefits "Big Insurance".