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seektravelinfo wrote:Jared Kushner
Melania Trump
A household staffer
A sloppy lawyer from Trump’s ever changing legal team
Two Men and a Truck
The ghost of Ivana who would have preferred to spend eternity at Mar A Lago, NOT New Jersey for chrissakes
Kurt wrote:They were looking for Nuclear Weapons documents.
Didnt mean he had them but they were looking.
I suppose every ex president they serve a search warrant on should contain that as something they look for.
After my OT Sec job I became convinced Trump was a Russian asset. So, maybe it was worse than I thought.
vagabond wrote:Kurt wrote:They were looking for Nuclear Weapons documents.
Didnt mean he had them but they were looking.
I suppose every ex president they serve a search warrant on should contain that as something they look for.
After my OT Sec job I became convinced Trump was a Russian asset. So, maybe it was worse than I thought.
Recommend "Hiding in Plain Sight" by Sarah Kendzior. Dude was definitely linked with shady people, even if it was just for money laundering purposes via real estate.
There's another book I haven't read (only the Kindle sample) called "American Kompromat", which mentioned some people that so happened to be linked with folks that worked at the real estate firm I was contracted at (they definitely had Kushner/Trump contracts plus a mysterious history).
Tarkan wrote:vagabond wrote:Kurt wrote:They were looking for Nuclear Weapons documents.
Didnt mean he had them but they were looking.
I suppose every ex president they serve a search warrant on should contain that as something they look for.
After my OT Sec job I became convinced Trump was a Russian asset. So, maybe it was worse than I thought.
Recommend "Hiding in Plain Sight" by Sarah Kendzior. Dude was definitely linked with shady people, even if it was just for money laundering purposes via real estate.
There's another book I haven't read (only the Kindle sample) called "American Kompromat", which mentioned some people that so happened to be linked with folks that worked at the real estate firm I was contracted at (they definitely had Kushner/Trump contracts plus a mysterious history).
Pretty much every President is linked to some shady people.
Tarkan wrote:
Pretty much every President is linked to some shady people.
seektravelinfo wrote:Actually I did have DeSantis on that poll but removed it in trying to get the poll to work. DiSantis is one mean stone cold son of a bitch.
Gavin Newsome has been making some good noise and trouble lately, calling out Democrats for being so soft. I hope he runs in 2024. He’s mainstream and limo liberal enough that he could gain some ground. Hard to believe he was once married to Kimberley Gilfoyle, that bizarre woman who is now Don Jr’s fiancé.
Maybe it was Kimberley that did it.
Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:
Pretty much every President is linked to some shady people.
Not really. Many were. Others like Bush II had links to people who had links to shady people. Clinton had links to sleazy people as he was one himself.
Trump is actually more similar to Clinton than any other president and I do not doubt that if Clinton were born into money he would have probably been similar to Trump (and if Trump had been born in Hot Springs he might have been similar to Clinton)
But that is the kind of justification that gets us into trouble in the long run. Nigeria is having a presidential campaign now and a bunch of sleazbags are running against a decent guy named Obi but the justification of the sleazebags is very similar to the "everyone does it anyway" trope in the US, which often is not true. Ola Tinubu is such a brazen Criminal that before his political career in Nigeria he was a bagman for heroin dealers in Chicago and this was after his careers in the 1980s at Deloitte, Anderson and GTE.
For some reason he was granted a monopoly on the tolls taken from the Leki Toll Gate (if you have been to Lagos you probably paid him a toll) and when young people began protesting this he sent in hardcore thugs with Israeli guns (Probably stolen from the fight against Boko Haram) and massacred them.
So Nigeria has a state thief, ordered the killing of it's own citizens with weapons designated to fight Boko and regular Nigerians said "well, everyone does something like this"
That is how Nigeria got like that.
Trump 2025 plans to "Drain The Swamp" really read like a Nigerian patronage plan. So Trump may know the same sleazballs as Clinton (and invite each other to family weddings etc. ) but it seems that Trump is really ground Zero of the worst people one can associate themselves with. He is the main criminal.
Luckily he is not very smart at crimes. A smart Trump could have pulled off his Coup.
Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:
Pretty much every President is linked to some shady people.
Not really. Many were. Others like Bush II had links to people who had links to shady people. Clinton had links to sleazy people as he was one himself.
Trump is actually more similar to Clinton than any other president and I do not doubt that if Clinton were born into money he would have probably been similar to Trump (and if Trump had been born in Hot Springs he might have been similar to Clinton)
Trump 2025 plans to "Drain The Swamp" really read like a Nigerian patronage plan. So Trump may know the same sleazballs as Clinton (and invite each other to family weddings etc. ) but it seems that Trump is really ground Zero of the worst people one can associate themselves with. He is the main criminal.
Luckily he is not very smart at crimes. A smart Trump could have pulled off his Coup.
seektravelinfo wrote:Actually I did have DeSantis on that poll but removed it in trying to get the poll to work. DiSantis is one mean stone cold son of a bitch.
Gavin Newsome has been making some good noise and trouble lately, calling out Democrats for being so soft. I hope he runs in 2024. He’s mainstream and limo liberal enough that he could gain some ground. Hard to believe he was once married to Kimberley Gilfoyle, that bizarre woman who is now Don Jr’s fiancé.
Maybe it was Kimberley that did it.
Tarkan wrote:I'd argue the swamp DOES need to be drained, but Trump isn't the man to do it. To compare it to Roman times, we need a Julius Caesar, but instead we have a bunch of Honorius type characters running things.
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