Trump 2024

[rickshaw92]

The Donald just threw his hat in the ring for 2024.



Let's talk about it.

[Kurt]

The Donald just threw his hat in the ring for 2024.



Let's talk about it.

Anyone who dismisses him is an idiot.

[snaark]

I wouldn't dismiss him but I reckon his chances are slim. Voters are fickle and he's yesterday's clown. My money is on President DeSantis in 2025. Then again, primaries seem to be the hardest thing to predict, so who knows, maybe Chuck Norris will win.

[Kurt]

I wouldn't dismiss him but I reckon his chances are slim. Voters are fickle and he's yesterday's clown. My money is on President DeSantis in 2025. Then again, primaries seem to be the hardest thing to predict, so who knows, maybe Chuck Norris will win.

This stage of his campaign is the "Clown Stage". Like in 2015 when he was everywhere, getting free exposure by people saying "No way he is gonna get the nomination". The guy is such a living news story that the MSM that he hates and who hates him will continue to put him into the running.

Plus the Not-Trump Republicans are so chickenshit that they will ALWAYS go back to being Pro-Trump. DeSantis has the MAGA election momentum now but he does not have the enthusiastic and dangerous base.

The problem with Trump actually winning again is a demographics one. His supporters are aging and the cruelty of his ideas and followers does not sit well with younger people. Plus the plan, the REAL plan for 2024 was to take over State's election certification process and dismiss a Democrat who wins in 2024 and that is not going to happen.

[sparrow]

I don't think he'll have the media the way he previously did.

https://nypost.com/cover/november-16-2022/

"Florida man makes announcement" is hardly an enthusiastic endorsement. On page 26 no less.

[Kurt]

I don't think he'll have the media the way he previously did.

https://nypost.com/cover/november-16-2022/

"Florida man makes announcement" is hardly an enthusiastic endorsement. On page 26 no less.

He never had the Media until he was the Nominee.

This race is gonna be more like 2016 "Trump Vs. Democrat Establishment" rather than 2020 which was "Establishment Vs. Big Fucking Mess"

Trump's base can beat the New New Republican establishment again for the nomination. The number of established Republican Trump critics who survived the 2022 primaries should point to this. Makes me wonder WTF everyone's problem is if they cannot see back in time months ago they certainly wont be able to see back in time 6 years ago.

[seektravelinfo]

https://nypost.com/cover/november-16-2022/

Love the way NY Post reported on this. Great headline.

Murdoch not in his corner anymore.

[Kurt]

https://nypost.com/cover/november-16-2022/

Love the way NY Post reported on this. Great headline.

Murdoch not in his corner anymore.

He will be in 2024.
We have enough legal tools to stop Trump and the fact that non of his flip floppers have advocated their use yet shows they will bail on DeSantis when Trumps supporters come through.
Trump was about media coverage but he never needed media support.

[sparrow]

Well, we'll see what you people do. I'll get the popcorn.

[Tarkan]

I don't think he'll have the media the way he previously did.

https://nypost.com/cover/november-16-2022/

"Florida man makes announcement" is hardly an enthusiastic endorsement. On page 26 no less.

He never had the Media until he was the Nominee.

This race is gonna be more like 2016 "Trump Vs. Democrat Establishment" rather than 2020 which was "Establishment Vs. Big Fucking Mess"

Trump's base can beat the New New Republican establishment again for the nomination. The number of established Republican Trump critics who survived the 2022 primaries should point to this. Makes me wonder WTF everyone's problem is if they cannot see back in time months ago they certainly wont be able to see back in time 6 years ago.

Trump got a stupid amount of free, positive press coverage before he won the nomination.

This was largely intentional because the media was in bed with the Clinton campaign and it was intended to force the eventual GOP candidate (who was never going to be Trump because of the joke that Trump is/was) to define themselves in terms of Trump rather than defining themselves in terms of Hillary Clinton. Part of it was also because Trump was an entertainer and was entertaining and generated clicks on Twitter when he was covered.

As soon as Trump won the nomination, the coverage turned 90% negative, 99% negative if you don't include Fox in the mix.

All those positive stories about how he was upending the race disappeared pretty much overnight and it turned to scandal 24x7.

[mb]

Tarkan, you're reading from the propaganda book again instead of actual history.

Trump got regular positive media coverage starting in the 1970s or 1980s. It never let up.

It didn't matter if it was true or false. All he wanted was attention. And the stories were always spectacular, so it served the press goals (sell newspapers) well too.

Now they may recognize the greater danger (see: NY Post article) and think a bit more. But probably not.

The greater public seem to love bully narcissists, and gloss over (or deny) all of their faults. Anyone in the NY business orbit new to demand cash up front working for Trump, since he never paid his bills. But he always found enough new suckers to keep going.

[sparrow]

Saw this on twitter today:

https://twitter.com/saabbayl/status/159 ... oCNTQ&s=02

I'm thinking 100%

[seektravelinfo]

Saw this on twitter today:

https://twitter.com/saabbayl/status/159 ... oCNTQ&s=02

I'm thinking 100%

Trump will have GOP opponents in the primary. Some are already gunning for it, gearing up with inflammatory and ridiculous claims to charm the Trump base. Mike Pompeo has already started, citing public school teachers as the most dangerous people in the world. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... the-world/

There will be Ted Cruz and Ron DeSantis (two ugly men in every way, shape and form) angling for the nomination and it will be an ugly fight. This time Trump won’t have Roger Stone, Manafort, Alex Jones to carry his water for him. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Herschel Walker maybe, for what that’s worth. Expect to see an acceleration of anti-Semitism and hate crimes against gays and multi-racial households.

Trump might end up running as a 3rd Party candidate.

[Michael]

Trump's best shot is for the Republicans to put as many candidates on the stage as possible. His cult following is at best 25% of the remaining Republicans. The more people throwing their collective hats in the ring, the more diluted the remaining 75% becomes and the better his odds of getting the nomination. If he manages to do that, the only remaining question becomes the number of down-ballot Republicans he takes down with him when he loses the general. Which brings up another possible scenario, the "Three Strikes" theory. As we know, Trump loves to hate on "Losers." He's lost twice, first to Biden and then in the recent mid-term. If nominated, he will lose in 2024, making him a three-time loser and the biggest loser in the history of presidential politics. The weakness in this theory is that, like all cult leaders, he is most likely too delusional to even consider such a possibility. At this stage, and I know it's early, I figure the election is open for either side to lose and I figure it's even money on which party will screw it up worse.