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gnaruki wrote:You might want to follow Taibbi's reporting
gnaruki wrote:Please elaborate.
Pretty big leap from merely being detained to having to appear in court.Tarkan wrote: SCOTUS has repeatedly said that you don't have to answer these questions, and yet cops have demonstrated time and time again that refusal to answer their fishing questions gets you identified as "uncooperative and evasive" and many will make the leap to "reasonable suspicion for detention" - "Well, your honor, most people don't mind telling me where they are going when I ask, so when the defendant refused to answer, based on my many years of law enforcement experience, indicated that they were up to ..." (whatever criminal activity they want to jam you on).
Let me guess, you are just asking questions, right?Tarkan wrote: To what degree did that alignment with the Biden admin agenda happen because of ideological alignment vs. coercion vs. financial incentives? Who knows
el3so wrote:Pretty big leap from merely being detained to having to appear in court.Tarkan wrote: SCOTUS has repeatedly said that you don't have to answer these questions, and yet cops have demonstrated time and time again that refusal to answer their fishing questions gets you identified as "uncooperative and evasive" and many will make the leap to "reasonable suspicion for detention" - "Well, your honor, most people don't mind telling me where they are going when I ask, so when the defendant refused to answer, based on my many years of law enforcement experience, indicated that they were up to ..." (whatever criminal activity they want to jam you on).
The only financial incentive you'd need was legal departments making a big fuss about liability that might ensue from offering a platform to misinformation. That's usually why shit does or doesn't change fast, lawyers and other suits talking about the possible impact on the bottom line.
Tarkan wrote:You aren't American, so presumably aren't as familiar with the US legal system, but this is how it works.
Let's say a cop pulls you over for not wearing your seatbelt. That's perfectly lawful, as is writing a ticket. In Texas, he can even arrest you for not wearing your seatbelt. A cop can also "terry" search your car, which is searching the area in the immediate vicinity of the driver (primarily for weapons that pose a threat to the officer). What they cannot (legally) do is a complete search of the car (including the trunk and a locked dash compartment) without either your approval (to the question of "can we search your car?") or through what's called reasonable suspicion. An example of reasonable suspicion is "I detected the strong presence of the odor of marijuana when Mr. El3so rolled down his window." What they can't (legally) do, is search your car on the basis that you refusing to agree to search your car constitutes reasonable suspicion. And if they do violate your Constitutional rights, search your car, and find something that ends up being illegal (like a kilo of cocaine), usually that evidence is inadmissible in court (fruit of the poisoned tree). That's how the law is supposed to work.
ROB wrote:Remember when that arch-conservative guy who was all about the Constitution here went and did a law degree?
Then returned, told everyone how profoundly wrong he had been and then proceeded to verbally ass fuck Tarkan across the board for weeks.
Hilarious times.
Tarkan wrote:ROB wrote:Remember when that arch-conservative guy who was all about the Constitution here went and did a law degree?
Then returned, told everyone how profoundly wrong he had been and then proceeded to verbally ass fuck Tarkan across the board for weeks.
Hilarious times.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
ROB wrote:Tarkan wrote:ROB wrote:Remember when that arch-conservative guy who was all about the Constitution here went and did a law degree?
Then returned, told everyone how profoundly wrong he had been and then proceeded to verbally ass fuck Tarkan across the board for weeks.
Hilarious times.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
That arch-conservative guy who was all about the Constitution here went and did a law degree?
Then returned, told everyone how profoundly wrong he had been and then proceeded to verbally ass fuck you across the board for weeks.
Hilarious times.
Tarkan wrote:I have no idea of who you are even talking about.
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