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Best guard dog

Postby Sri Lanky » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:15 pm

Got a couple of rotties and they instantly kick into kill mode when they even smell something different....it doesn't take much and they'll fight to the death.

As loyal as a German Shepherd and crazier than a Doberman or Pitbull.

Had one rottie named Bear.....a fucking monster but a farmer shot it because he was that scared of it. My farmer buddy had to take a 2 by 4 to it one day.....for ten minutes.

The problem though is you always have to show them whose boss or they'll turn on you.They lose respect quickly if you show weakness.I can't think of any other dog that's as close to the wolf in nature. Pitbulls are suckholes in comparison.
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Postby coldharvest » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:29 pm

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Postby yorick » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:32 pm

Rhodesian Ridgeback, one of two breeds used for hunting lions. The other is Airedale Terrier. Smart and courageous are rare combination of talent, generally you get feisty with no brains as among pitbull and rottweiler breeds.

Rhodesians are the "rolls royce" of highly intelligent big-game hunting guard dogs. South African breed developed by Boers to the region circa 1600-1700, then the breed was perpetuated by Europeans in Africa as utility dogs for plantation living over the next few hundred years. Equally as gentle and obedient in the household as cunning and courageous on the hunt. It's basically an extremely intelligent hound with muscle that takes shit from nobody. Not a crybaby that barks at everyone and does stupid shit like attacking the neighbors uninvited. Rhodesians are remarkably reserved and self-restrained in company of humans they know.

My best friend had one living in the woods at Nederlands Colorado yrs ago. He bought it pre-trained for attack purposes on command and spent more money getting the dog than he did for his car.


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Postby docjoyce » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:35 pm

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Akita's are fantastic. Turk will only growl and not bark when someone comes into the yard.

This is handy when you dont want a crazy yippy ass dog barking at everything and anything. He will bark when they get within fifteen yards of the house. Never once has he ever barked at another dog though, its part of the breed.

Akitas are the perfect blend of ability in a pinch mixed with love and honor.
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Postby Sri Lanky » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:48 pm

Rotties are stupid,stubborn,and lazy but fucking viscious.

We expect some unwanted company at times so we prefer rotten rotties.
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Postby yorick » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:03 pm

DJ, Is that the Chinese breed known for uncommon loyalty thinkin of itself as member of family same as all others? Like the one ratted out OJ Simpson killing his wife? It disappointed me the dogs testimony wasnt allowed in California courts.

Brother Sri Lankey on the other hand apparently you've got unique situation. Now with dogs of yer own challenging command of the homefront tucked in for the Winter. Dogs absorb kharma in our lives that relieve pain and suffering of being human. Field Marshall Rommel's dachshund was his greatest companion during WWII Africa Campaign, referrenced in autobiography sharing his every thought.

Humans are smart to speak with dogs regularly refreshing animal acquaintance. Without their approval nothing can be accomplished.

Sri Lankey, have ye thought about wearing ice-hockey gloves and then wrastling with *insurgent* rottweilers on their own terms? Am serious about this: All dogs crave working with humans. Never just say "no,no,no" but spaek dog language identifying yerself as boss of the pack. And with hockey gloves let em chew on yer hands. This oughta teach em where best to disarm unwanted visitors.

Seriously my friend, marshall em as troops for regular drill and they'll love you for it. Question of giving critters attention they deserve. Humans, dont be scared at lowering yerselves to *identity* with animal world and y'all find heaven no less accessible there. Path Francsis of Assissi, i think, among Cathalics.


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(edit:= sorry to hear of neighbor shootin yer dog. It shows admirable restraint you didnt visit there and shoot his own right in front of his eyes.
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Postby docjoyce » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:08 pm

Yep from japan.


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Postby Sri Lanky » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:13 pm

What I do is spoil the piss out of them and then once in a while I scream or I give them the look. They know when I'm mad. They don't like it when I'm mad.

I talk to them like I love them...which I do....I love them just short of humping them. I prefer female humans when it comes to animal closeness.
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Re: Best guard dog

Postby Caliban » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:26 pm

Sri Lanky wrote:Got a couple of rotties and they instantly kick into kill mode when they even smell something different....it doesn't take much and they'll fight to the death.



The standard newyear news story "child killed by dog" hit the headlines today. 14month old child savaged to death by the grandparents Rottweiler. A couple of mates of mine had them one was a superb dog but the other was a psycho. Great looking dogs, but I have never been able to bring myself to trust them.

yorick wrote:Rhodesian Ridgeback, one of two breeds used for hunting lions. The other is Airedale Terrier. Smart and courageous are rare combination of talent, generally you get feisty with no brains as among pitbull and rottweiler breeds.


My choice too. Used to have Rhodies. One in particular was the most impressive and sneaky guard dog I ever had. No barking or snarling just sheer brute force. Made the mistake of climbing over the house fence one night, having forgotten my keys. She (thank god it wasn't the bigger "he" ) was in the garden. All I heard was the dull thud of here gallop across the paddock, realised in time and said her name. She just carried on coming , now only to greet me and she hit me full belt. Knocked me of my feet into the side wall of the house and that was just her greeting.
I almost feel sorry for the burglar that she surprised a year or two later. Just waited quietly on the other side of the living room door, waiting for them to open it...oh dear, terrible scenes of devastation >;^)
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Postby yorick » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:37 pm

Sorry Sri Lankey you must have missed my late edit. This time of year I'd drill em like soldiers walkin and defining property lines. If nothing else, dogs love responsibility assigned to em. Holler at em drifting off-range, they'll get the idea. Again it sucks that yer neighbor shot one dead and shows admirable restraint you didnt retaliate.

Caliban, my marijuanna dealing pal's Rhodesian was also barkless. I'd show up at his A-frame to buy some pot. If he wasnt home the dog would walk an arc military style around the property keeping me out, not barking he'd just stare me down allowing me to sit and smoke cigarette if not approaching the house. I knew the dogs name and that matters alot.




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Postby Woodsman » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:38 am

Sri,

I love Rottweilers. They are beautiful dogs. They are on the top of my list when it comes to dogs that I would own. Maybe a Rot is in line for the next dog. I also love German Shepherds.

In my opinion, Shepherds are a fine choice because they are generally easier to train than other dogs. Their ability to learn (and not be stubborn) is why I think most L.E.O. K-9 professionals choose either German or Belgian shepherds for law work.

Another fine choice is the Doberman pincer, but I believe they were a bit overbred in the 80s and finding a good diverse lineage might be a tough call.

I have a mixed shepherd and an American Bulldog. They are as different as day and night and both of them have good traits. They are both fantastic as guard and watch dogs.

As far as strictly BAD ASS is concerned, the American Bulldog holds the trump card over any breed. Including Rot.

I mean, Bubs speaks for himself:

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Postby docjoyce » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:16 am

That is a great looking dog.
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Postby soulohio » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:42 pm

man, do i want a rhodesian...
i have read opinions from people that bread the dogs and work the dogs. the opinion is most people should not own a pit bred dog or even a rottweiler unless they plan on working the dog as designed. the consequences of owning the breed without working with the animal to it's naturally bred character will result in heartache for some neighbors child or other human.

yorick good posts.

an observation on a buddies rott...he had the dog socialised to his child and the neighborhood children and adult neighbors to the point he didn't think the dog would ever be of assistance in a robbery-home invasion...boy if that dog did not recognise you-especially in a car where she could not see your full human form- you got her attention....the dog died at 5 years from cancer...i don't know if the dog would have lived longer any grouchy, latent traits would have appeared. she was one bundle of love...always approached men that she knew with head down and eyes up....
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Postby Stiv » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:58 pm

There are a few farms out here that have high end horses and to a one they all have packs of Jack Russells and not the fox hunting parsons jacks either. These are closer to mini staffordshires.

Let me tell you whether human, rat, or any breed of large dog the little fuckers will send terror into the trespassers hearts in a split second.

I have watched Rotts, shepards and humans run in abject horror once they realized that they had five to six of these canine pirahnas going after the tendons running pack on thier hind legs let alone the fact that some of these farms have twenty running loose.

There are a few rural truck companies out here that usually have the combo of Dobies and Shepards running the properties occasionally a Rottie or two but not as much as the previous two.

It's about training really but gimme five or six Jack's that I've trained anyday to cover a large area of property.

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Postby Big Duke 6 » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:44 pm

Stiv wrote:There are a few farms out here that have high end horses and to a one they all have packs of Jack Russells and not the fox hunting parsons jacks either. These are closer to mini staffordshires.

Let me tell you whether human, rat, or any breed of large dog the little fuckers will send terror into the trespassers hearts in a split second.

I have watched Rotts, shepards and humans run in abject horror once they realized that they had five to six of these canine pirahnas going after the tendons running pack on thier hind legs let alone the fact that some of these farms have twenty running loose.

There are a few rural truck companies out here that usually have the combo of Dobies and Shepards running the properties occasionally a Rottie or two but not as much as the previous two.

It's about training really but gimme five or six Jack's that I've trained anyday to cover a large area of property.

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