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Palm Pistol

Postby phasmoid » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:36 pm

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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Zero » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:22 pm

When are they going to make one in 12gauge?

This thing is an assassin's gun. Also will probably be used for more than a few suicides
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Woodsman » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:15 pm

The Kevorkian pistol.
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Hitoru » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:34 am

Ms. svizzerams needs to get a FFL.
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Ultra Swain » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:39 am

19 D 20 wrote:Ms. svizzerams needs to get a FFL.


How hard is it to get a FFL?
Geez,am I NOT ALLOWED TO BE INTENSE FOR JUST 10 FUCKING SECONDS??!!!!!!!
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Ultra Swain » Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:49 am

nevermind, I actually looked it up myself.
Geez,am I NOT ALLOWED TO BE INTENSE FOR JUST 10 FUCKING SECONDS??!!!!!!!
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby coldharvest » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:39 am

Ultra Swain wrote:nevermind, I actually looked it up myself.

...well, how hard is it to get one?
I know the law. And I have spent my entire life in its flagrant disregard.
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Zero » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:14 am

coldharvest wrote:
Ultra Swain wrote:nevermind, I actually looked it up myself.

...well, how hard is it to get one?


Too hard to ever be worth it. There's even a minimum sales volume requirement of 100 guns per month.
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Kurt » Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:10 am

coldharvest wrote:
Ultra Swain wrote:nevermind, I actually looked it up myself.

...well, how hard is it to get one?


You know Swain's attention span when it comes to writing things that become un-funny very quickly.

I am guessing "really hard" and I am guessing being able to endure the boredom filling out the paperwork to get one is what makes it hard....hence Swain's mercifully brief response.
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby coldharvest » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:24 am

Bless you both.
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Ultra Swain » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:07 pm

I. FFL Information

1. Rob's Quick Guide to Getting a Federal Firearms License

by Rob Caton (C08926RC@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu)
(Updated 4/14/93 - added footnotes)
(updated 9/30/93 - added footnote, modified step 6)

Rob's Quick Guide to Getting a Federal Firearms License
=======================================================

1) Call or write your local BATF office and ask them for an application
for a Federal Firearms License. While your at it, ask them for the
"Guide to Federal Firearms Laws" (commonly called the "red book").
It's full of information you may want to know before applying.

2) Fill out the application. You are required to list your place of
business. You may use your home, but the portion of the home that
is used for the business must have hours open to the public. The
hours must be listed on the application.(a)

3) Mail the application and the appropriate fee to the address provided.
A normal 'dealer' license is $30/3 years.

4) Wait. The BATF has 45 days to process the application.(b)

5) When approved, they'll send you your license and (in a separate package)
guides and forms. You must provide your own "bound book" - your record
of all firearms transactions.

6) BATF requires the holder of an FFL to be 'engaged in the business.' I
realize some people want an FFL for personal use only. I will neither
condone nor condemn such activities. In either case, I would get the
appropriate business licenses, if any. If you decide to make ANY sales,
acquire a state sales tax ID and collect sales tax. You don't want your
state Department of Revenue on your case. In fact, some firearms distri-
butors won't sell to you unless you have a state tax ID.

7) KEEP ACCURATE RECORDS!

8) Obey all federal, state and local laws.(b)

(a) Hours are not required if applying for a 'Collector of Curios and Relics'
license. Also, some have been able to use 'By Appointment Only' in lieu
of listing actual hours.

A 'Curios and Relics' license differs from a dealer FFL in that you are
limited to interstate purchases of firearms that are on the BATF 'Curios
and Relics' list. If your primary interest is older military firearms,
I would take it into consideration - every military handgun, semi-auto
rifle and bolt action rifle manufactured prior to 1946 is included on
this list. Some newer firearms are also on the list, including some
pieces listed by serial number.

(b) It seems HCI and the media have made the 'easy availability of FFLs' the
hot topic this year. In response, the BATF is now conducting interviews,
usually by phone, with applicants. In some cases they are also checking
to see if you are in compliance with local laws before issuing the
license. As a result, processing time has been taking longer than the
45 day legal limit.

(c) It has been reported on 4/13/93 that the BATF is now suspending
some FFLs who do not meet all state and local requirements, such as
zoning. If true, this may severely limit the number of FFLs.

I believe the biggest reason people decide not to get an FFL is because of
Step 2. If you use your house as your place of business, it must be open
to the public within the hours you list. The BATF can also come into your
house for a records audit within those hours, unannounced. If they wish,
they may examine the premises without warrant. Granted, this probably doesn't
happen often, and there are guidelines listed in the red book, but it is
possible.

What are the advantages of an FFL? You get to purchase items at dealer
cost, and you can make a profit by retailing firearms. You are also able to
buy guns mail order and across state lines.

If you only make a few purchases a year for yourself, then I wouldn't bother
with it. If you buy often and want to make sales, take it into consideration.
Geez,am I NOT ALLOWED TO BE INTENSE FOR JUST 10 FUCKING SECONDS??!!!!!!!
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No longer the Kevorkian pistol.

Postby Hitoru » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:02 am

According to Small Arms Review, because of all the media attention the FDA withdrew it's classification and canceled the "Palm Pistol" as a "Class 1 Medical Device".
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Re: Palm Pistol

Postby Q » Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:59 pm

coldharvest wrote:
Ultra Swain wrote:nevermind, I actually looked it up myself.

...well, how hard is it to get one?



If you don't have a storefront, you aren't going to get one. Unfortunately, those days are looooooong gone.
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