My Second Saiga 12

[ktrout]

Why?

Why Not???

This really illustrates the fundamental difference in American and European philosophies.
I'm much partial to the looks of your original flat mag Saiga myself. I could go for one in .308. AKs look so much cooler than ARs, IMHO. There's just something Afghani rebel about them.
The '80s ones, I mean. When they were fighting against the bad guys.

[Hitoru]

I'm laissez faire me, it's just that I can't see the point of owning an assault weapon unless you're fixing to kill someone or defend yourself. It would annoy me to have such a beautiful device so impotently in my possession - like keeping a Bugatti in your garage. I certainly wouldn't legislate against it - I can't get enough of the State of Nature. Maybe 19D20 is fixing on something or maybe he's the gun version of a railway enthusiast.

I'm a deaf bastard too. (delete deaf for amusement, verite)

I'm a hobbyist, with that said I have already used the first saiga on two local auto burglars trying to steal my truck & the 4 wheeler I need for work at around 0300. I now know who these fucktard gangbangers are and they know I know. Prior to this they were breaking into my and my neighbor's vehicles every 3-4 months. It's been a few years now and no more break ins.

My firearms to me are for historical/mechanical interest, sport and defense.

[crotalus01]

How much did you pay for them? I have been looking for a Saiga 12 but the best price I have seen at a gun show was $800 and a local gun shop had one for about the same. Seems way overpriced to me, I had (before the big O administration) seen them for round $450...

[Hitoru]

The first one was around $400.00 in 2001 when I purchased it.

We did a group buy and scored the IZ 109's for $660.00 each with one 5 rounder, one 12 rounder and the aftermarket stock.

Here are what I assume are wholesale prices from Atlantic Arms if the have them in stock. They are pretty rare at gunshows.

$559.00

Item# Saiga 12 Russian Shotgun IZ109


Saiga 12 ,Imported Russian Shotgun by Russian American Armory, semi auto AK style 12 gauge, built at the Russian Izmash Arsenal, featuring 5 round clip fed semi auto, side mount scope rail, all new construction, will shoot 2 ¾" and 3" magnum, designed for high reliability in harsh environments ,great for tactical and home defense. The removable mag allows for a quick change in Tactical or competitive shooting !! The have a 19 inch threaded barrel so you can add various chokes or muzzle brakes ..

[Hitoru]

New S-12 full-auto video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_zIrgtv1J0

S-12 in Nat Geo



S-12 Distributors

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Arms of America
P.O. Box 30056
Flagstaff, AZ 86004
1-888-729-7815
Fax: 623-298-5062

Atlantic Firearms
10337 Bunting Road
Bishopville, MD 21813
410-352-5183

Bangers
South Carolina 800-226-4377
Florida 1-800-226-4371
Georgia 1-877-649-2260
Kentucky 1-800-863-1145
North Carolina 1-800-926-3006
Alabama 1-800-636-8871
Indiana 1-877-649-2263

Cadiz Gun Works
(Warranty Repair Shop)
Must have Return Authorization
for repair work.
P.O. Box 126
117 West Market St.
Cadiz, OH 43907
1-740-942-3175

Centerfire Systems
102 Fieldview Dr.
Versailles, KY
1-800-950-1231

Ellett Brothers
267 Columbia Ave.
Chapin, SC 29036
800-845-3711

Gilbert's Gun Shop
2282 Louisville Rd.
Frankfort, KY 40601
502-227-7889


BILL HICKS & CO., LTD
15155 23rd Ave N.
Minneapolis, MN 55447
1-800-223-0702

Interstate Arms Corp.
6 Dunham Rd.
Unit G
Billerica, MA 01821
1-800-243-3006

LEW HORTON DISTRIBUTING
15 Walkup Drive
Westborough, MA 01581
1-508-366-7400 Telephone
1-508-366-5332 Fax

LM Burney distributing
900 Schroeder Drive
Waco, TX 76710
1-800-737.3006 Telephone
1-254-751-9345

MT Guns (Target Rifles Only)
P.O. Box 12547
Zephyr Cove, NV 89448
805-720-7720 Phone
805-962-1855 Fax
mtguns@earthlink.net

RSR Group Inc.
New York 800-458-4867
Florida 800-541-4867
Nevada 800-634-4867
Texas 800-752-4867
Wisconsin 800-832-4867

Zanders Fur and Sporting Goods
7525 State Rt. 154
Baldwin, IL 62217
1-618-785-2235
© 2005 Russian American Armory Company

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[ktrout]

I love AKs with wood furniture. And the lady is pretty too. Is that Fidel in the background? If I were to spend some time in the aforementioned Kamchatka region, would the Russians allow a foreigner to arm himself?

[Woodsman]

Fidel: ha ha. Anyway, I think those guns are awesome. I'm gonna stop by and say hi in a couple months Mr. Hitoru. I would like to see the gun, but not by the wrong end. :-)

Later,
Woodsy.

[EOE_overland]

I'm a hobbyist, with that said I have already used the first saiga on two local auto burglars trying to steal my truck & the 4 wheeler I need for work at around 0300. I now know who these fucktard gangbangers are and they know I know. Prior to this they were breaking into my and my neighbor's vehicles every 3-4 months. It's been a few years now and no more break ins.

Had my Saiga 12 since 2003. Love it...even with my crapco saw grip and stock :). No muzzle brake, but with the first shot in the groin the rise brings the second one in the chest. Like you said- ends the 'banger issues. Russian-made psychological warfare at its finest :)

[docjoyce]

I am about to get a sig 556, now this has me intrigued.