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Heckler and Koch 416

Postby Lost Boy » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:15 pm

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If you like the 5.56 NATO cartridge, here's a lovely gem that if budget allowed should replace all NATO issued infantry carbines, such as the Frenchy FAMAS, the Limey SA80, or the Yankee M4.

It doesn't require lubrication, can operate for extended periods without cleaning or service, and is just as reliable as the AK, but of course more accurate. Doesn't foul up from sand, dirt, or mud.

Fully compatible with AR-16/M-16/M-4 lower receivers and magazines.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby Eichenlaub » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:26 pm

It looks cool, and I can't get one so... I guess I want one.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby bearfood » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:08 am

That's boolshit.

It's a machine with moving parts, It needs lubrication.

And It will choke on mud, dust, and sand just not as readily as the Stoner design.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby Eichenlaub » Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:51 am

But it looks cool and its an HK!!!
It'll probably get you laid, maybe by a dude, but that still counts... technically.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby Hitoru » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:01 am

Eichenlaub wrote:But it looks cool and its an HK!!!
It'll probably get you laid, maybe by a dude, but that still counts... technically.


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Postby el3so » Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:56 am

I thought it was funny Eichenlaub.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby Hitoru » Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:00 am

Because you can't own one either ?
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:59 pm

Wow – they invented an M-4

How original

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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby Woodsman » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:30 pm

HK = overpriced arms.

I can't afford one and I wouldn't buy one even if I had the money.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby Lost Boy » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:34 pm

bearfood wrote:That's boolshit.

It's a machine with moving parts, It needs lubrication.

And It will choke on mud, dust, and sand just not as readily as the Stoner design.


Negative. It is true that as with any machine with moving parts, it has failures, but significantly less than the weapons it is designed to replace. Furthermore, the parts are specially treated with a certain coating which allows them to function without gun oil.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby bearfood » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:01 pm

Lost Boy wrote:Negative. It is true that as with any machine with moving parts, it has failures, but significantly less than the weapons it is designed to replace. Furthermore, the parts are specially treated with a certain coating which allows them to function without gun oil.


According to the H&K 416 Operators Manual, page 23, Section 9.2 – Lubrication Guide:

“NO Lubrication: (surface is dry and not slippery to the touch)

- Plastic or rubber components,
- Sling webbing,
- Optics,

Lubrication:

-- Gas Piston and Gas Cylinder,
-- Buffer and Recoil Spring,
-- Bolt, Bolt Carrier, and Cam Pin,
-- Extractor,
-- Ejector,
-- Barrel Extension,
-- Bore, chamber, locking surfaces of the chamber and bolt lugs,
-- Receiver take down and pivot pin,
-- Hammer, trigger, diconnector springs and selector in trigger group,
Piston Rod,
--All metal parts and/or any are where metal contact metal…


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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby tonelar » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:30 am

Hk improved the Spanish CETME rifle (where the HK91 came from). They also made the English bullpup work better for them. So the 416 is their answer to the M4's multitude of problems (gas impingement gets them dirtier).
A gas piston Bushy or Colt would be just as reliable... run cooler and stay cleaner longer. If you have the $$$, the 416 upper would be pretty neat, but I'd rather spend my money on a different 5.56 platform rifle.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby ochunter375 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:10 am

I bought the 416 stock for my YHM specter XL. Doesn't fit. Fits other Mil-Spec tubes, but not mine. WTF.
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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:30 am

H&K Suck more balls than a 5 dollar ho





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Re: Heckler and Koch 416

Postby RSnyder » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:19 am

It's heavier and costs significantly more than the standard impingement system. In fact, the name alone makes it more expensive. My (manufacturer name deleted) AR goes "BANG" every time I pull the trigger. I have to clean it and lube it, inside and out.

As for lubrication, any firearm such as this is a machine. When machines are concerned, lube = good. Your life may very well depend on a well-maintained firearm. I mean, you put oil in your car don't you? You wouldn't try to cross a desert with your family accompanying you in a vehicle without oil in the motor, would you?
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