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Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby ochunter375 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:42 am

Any opinions or comments? I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on it. Thinks it's an option to the Springfield M14 - scout? Thanks.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby Woodsman » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:30 pm

ochunter375 wrote:Any opinions or comments? I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on it. Thinks it's an option to the Springfield M14 - scout? Thanks.


The action is of course different than the M14 or M1A. That fact alone does not really put it in the level playing field.

An AR-10 is the same arena as the M14, but not the Ruger.

That gunsite scout rifle looks like a Lee-enfield jungle rifle with a picatinny rail on it.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby lok8 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:37 pm

Alot safer than humpin round a 700 scout. I find them nimble little beasts, never really liked one till I had the occasion.

As pointed out the comparison you asked for really amounts to tangerines vs. apples-

The world being compromise, sure you don't have semi auto, however you do have something like 5 lbs less to shoulder repetitively were if she goes on a date away from the firing line. If you put in the time you may find turnin bolts pay dividends in your overall form.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:10 pm

the CZ is just as good



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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby Chimborazo » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:23 pm

JamesInTheWorld wrote:the CZ is just as good



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Which one? That Urban Counter Sniper looks pretty cool, but well over twice the price.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby BillyOblivion » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:11 am

ochunter375 wrote:Any opinions or comments? I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on it. Thinks it's an option to the Springfield M14 - scout? Thanks.


If you're financially in a position where the cost difference is irrelevant, then these are thing things *I* would keep in mind:

1) The accuracy difference between the two (M14 and M77) is IN THE FIELD (and maybe off the bench) inside the error margin of 99.9% of shooters. If you can, with a brand new rifle shoot 1/2 MOA at 1000 yards, then you wouldn't be asking here.
2) While the accuracy is roughly equivalent, the M14 would be easier to shoot faster, and to run while on the move, so this depends on your use case. Also I suspect it's easier and cheaper to find larger magazines for the M14, if that's in your use case.
3) Each have a "space" that they are most useful in, and you gotta decide how you're going to use it. As a Safe Queen/Wall Art it doesn't matter.
  • As a range gun, I'd pick the M14
  • For deer hunting, either would do, but the M77 would be lighter.
  • In a situation where having to shoot back is likely I'd take the M1/M14

Now note that I haven't yet fired either, and I do have a rifle in a scout configuration by a different make. A scout rifle is a *light* rifle for the round it shoots, and is not a pleasant way of turning large amounts of money into a pile of spent brass. The recoil isn't horrible, it's not going to tear your shoulder off, but it's NOT an AK or a .223. I didn't get a chance to shoot mine until I'd ripped some cartilage off in my shoulder, but after that it was 10-15 rounds and I was done. Of course it's NOT a gun that's designed for sustained fire.

I'm not sure, other than deer hunting, where the Scout Rifle use case is today. I know that those in the Cult Of Cooper love the thing, and it IS a nice rifle mid sized game, but today the M1 scout will do the mid-sized game just as well, and it's only marginally heavier.

I guess for almost everything I'd get the M1.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby BillyOblivion » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:13 am

JamesInTheWorld wrote:the CZ is just as good


This is almost always true when talking about CZ.

There very well may be a 527 in my near future, if I can get the paperwork done.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby Woodsman » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:28 am

BillyOblivion wrote:
1) The accuracy difference between the two (M14 and M77) is IN THE FIELD (and maybe off the bench) inside the error margin of 99.9% of shooters. If you can, with a brand new rifle shoot 1/2 MOA at 1000 yards, then you wouldn't be asking here.


Precision, not accuracy.

Please get the terms straight.


-from a guy who can shoot <1/2 MOA @ 1,000y.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby Moosehead » Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:06 am

ochunter375 wrote:Any opinions or comments? I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on it. Thinks it's an option to the Springfield M14 - scout? Thanks.

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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:08 pm

Woodsman wrote:-from a guy who can shoot <1/2 MOA @ 1,000y


In a controlled environment, using US manufactured ammo, on a full stomach, 8 hours a day rest and without anyone shooting back at you

I am not impressed


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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby Hitoru » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:54 pm

Woodsman wrote:-from a guy who can shoot <1/2 MOA @ 1,000y


Bullshit.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby Woodsman » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:14 pm

Hitoru wrote:
Woodsman wrote:-from a guy who can shoot <1/2 MOA @ 1,000y


Bullshit.


Not bullshit.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby Woodsman » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:15 pm

JamesInTheWorld wrote:
Woodsman wrote:-from a guy who can shoot <1/2 MOA @ 1,000y


In a controlled environment, using US manufactured ammo, on a full stomach, 8 hours a day rest and without anyone shooting back at you

I am not impressed
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You know absolutely nothing about precision shooting so shut your fucking pie hole.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby Hitoru » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:43 am

Woodsman wrote:
Hitoru wrote:
Woodsman wrote:-from a guy who can shoot <1/2 MOA @ 1,000y


Bullshit.


Not bullshit.


I was stuck on one moa @ 1000 yds was the same in inches as 100 yrds is one inch, so I was thinking .5 inches @ a 1000 yds was crazy .

Not the doable 5.23" it would actually be at 1000 yds.
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Re: Ruger - Gunsite Scout Rifle.

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:50 am

Woodsman wrote:
JamesInTheWorld wrote:
Woodsman wrote:-from a guy who can shoot <1/2 MOA @ 1,000y


In a controlled environment, using US manufactured ammo, on a full stomach, 8 hours a day rest and without anyone shooting back at you

I am not impressed
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You know absolutely nothing about precision shooting so shut your fucking pie hole.


You know shit about shooting a gun outside of a controlled non-combat environment in the US - so shut your fucking pie hole


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