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So what did the Marines use there?
Penta wrote: "During preparatory operations in the November 2004 Fallujah clearance operation, on one night over 40 155mm artillery rounds were fired into a small sector of the city," recalled Brigadier Nigel Aylwin-Foster, a British commander serving with the American forces in Baghdad.
He added that the US commander who ordered this devastating use of firepower did not consider it significant enough to mention it in his daily report to the US general in command.
Penta wrote: Dr Busby says that while he cannot identify the type of armaments used by the Marines, the extent of genetic damage suffered by inhabitants suggests the use of uranium in some form. He said: "My guess is that they used a new weapon against buildings to break through walls and kill those inside."
coldharvest wrote:Dr Busby says that while he cannot identify the type of armaments used by the Marines, he is willing to pull a guess out of his ass.
This study was intended to investigate the accuracy of the various reports which have been emerging from Fallujah regarding perceived increases in birth defects, infant deaths and cancer in the population and to examine samples from the area for the presence of mutagenic substances that may explain any results. We conclude that the results confirm the reported increases in cancer and infant mortality which are alarmingly high. The remarkable reduction in the sex ratio in the cohort born one year after the fighting in 2004 identifies that year as the time of the environmental contamination. In our opinion, the magnitude of these effects make it difficult to question them on the basis of any of the hypothetical shortcomings of the study type which we have considered although these must be borne in mind. However, owing to the various constraints placed by circumstance on the methods employed, we must emphasise that the results of this study should be interpreted with those aspects in mind. Finally, the results reported here do not throw any light upon the identity of the agent(s) causing the increased levels of illness and although we have drawn attention to the use of depleted uranium as one potential relevant exposure, there may be other possibilities and we see the current study as investigating the anecdotal evidence of increases in cancer and infant mortality in Fallujah.
Penta wrote:coldharvest wrote:Dr Busby says that while he cannot identify the type of armaments used by the Marines, he is willing to pull a guess out of his ass.
It's not up to him to decide what caused it, but to find out whether the anecdotal evidence of increased birth defects, infant mortality and cancers is true.
He also found a major change in the sex ratio, and adduces evidence (p. 2832) that exposure to uranium is well known to have that effect.
...and that's a fine place to start but certainly not the complete answer
friendlyskies wrote:Remember how this was being called "the long war"? These weapons are continuing to do exactly what they were designed to do, years later.
from the link rdkll posted.Since DU has a half-life of 4.5 billion years...
Naveen wrote:from the link rdkll posted.Since DU has a half-life of 4.5 billion years...
Now that's fucking with the environment
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