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Christian Coalition Has Guides for Voters

Postby Captain_Solo » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:31 pm

Christian Coalition Has Guides for Voters

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Christian Coalition is distributing 30 million voter guides that use conservative catch-phrases such as "unrestricted abortion on demand" and "affirmative action programs that provide preferential treatment" in detailing the positions of the two presidential candidates.

The guides will be distributed nationally starting Thursday, handed out in churches, at shopping malls and at other public locations. The coalition has been producing the guides since 1992.

Roberta Combs, coalition president, said the guides were an attempt to educate voters and "I don't think the wording is loaded at all."

The description of the guides as "nonpartisan" was questioned by some political analysts and coalition critics.

"These guides are clearly partisan, almost always supporting the Republican campaign," said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State.

"They make the Republican look like a candidate for sainthood and the Democratic candidates look like they belong in the house of horrors wax museum," Lynn said.

President Bush's campaign answered a questionnaire for the guides, while Democrat John Kerry's campaign did not.

"The Christian Coalition can do the bidding of the Bush campaign under any guise that they want, but we're still not going to answer their questionnaire," said Kerry adviser Michael Meehan.

The coalition vigorously defends its nonpartisan status, important to its ability to retain its federal tax exemption. The group and the Internal Revenue Service have sparred for years over whether the coalition's activities are too political for a tax-exempt group.

The guides reach an important portion of the electorate. About 25 percent of voters are white evangelicals, polling suggests, and almost four in 10 Republicans describe themselves as evangelicals.

Combs said the coalition sends questionnaires to candidates. If there is no response, the coalition fills in positions according to how a candidate has voted or taken an official stand on an issue. "No response" is entered when there is no such record.

The guides will be sent to state chairs of the coalition to distribute to about 80,000 churches around the country. The coalition is also providing the document on its Web site and encouraging members to print their own versions and distribute them. The guides cover 200 federal races, including Senate and House contests and are customized for each state and each congressional district.

The guides provide positions on such issues as "unrestricted abortion on demand," "adoption of children by homosexuals," "permanent elimination of the death tax," "federal firearms registration and licensing of gun owners," "affirmative action programs that provide preferential treatment," "allowing younger workers to invest a portion of their Social Security tax in a private account" and several other tax proposals.

The only international issue mentioned is "placing U.S. troops under United Nations control."

Framing the questions with wording often used by conservative politicians puts many candidates in an awkward position to answer "yes" or "no," said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a specialist in political communication and director of the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Public Policy Center.

"A legitimate voter guide would phrase the issue in the language that they legislate with," she said. "These categories are framed from the conservative perspective."

"In order to respond, the Democrat would have to argue that the language does not capture the debate or his position."
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Postby Prodigal Son » Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:48 pm

Here is the online version of the Christian Coalition Voter Guide....

http://www.bettybowers.com/2004ccvoterguide.html
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Postby Buzzsaw » Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:19 pm

First of all, why does anyone care if it's partisan? So is every organization from the Unions, NRA, NEA, NOW, to whatever.

Second, seeing that the Democratic Party is at odds with the Christianity (a generalization, I know) on many moral issues, doesn't that lead one to the conclusion that the Christian Coalition would ask its members to vote for other candidates?
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Postby Prodigal Son » Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:36 pm

Every bible-thumping moralist secretely wishes to be a dictator.

Besides, who are they to say what is or isn't moral? The bible, like every other "holy" book, was written by men, not God.
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Postby Buzzsaw » Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:42 pm

Prodigal Son wrote:Every bible-thumping moralist secretely wishes to be a dictator.


Come on, Prodigal. You're simply showcasing your own deep-seated bigotry with remarks like this.

Besides, who are they to say what is or isn't moral?


They're the Christian Coaliton, that's who. An organization of people with the following goals and mission:

Strengthening the family
Protecting innocent human life
Returning education to local and parental control
Easing the tax burden on families
Punishing criminals and defending victims' rights
Protecting young people and our communities from the pollution of pornography
Defending the institution of marriage
Protecting religious freedom

Five - Fold Mission

Represent the pro-family point of view before local councils, school boards, state legislatures and Congress

Speak out in the public arena and in the media

Train leaders for effective social and political action

Inform pro-family voters about timely issues and legislation

Protest anti-Christianity bigotry and defend the rights of people of faith

You don't have to be a member or agree with them on any of these things, Prodigal, but they have every right to their opinions and every right to exist as an organization and attempt to influence elections. Sheesh. It's a democracy for crying out loud. All voices get their hearing.
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Postby Prodigal Son » Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:08 pm

Have you ever actually listened to folks like Jerry Falwell? (who was just on FOX News saying he doesn't know how true christians could vote for John Kerry by the way) When they use words like "faith" read "strict-Calvisnt Evangelical Protestantism" and family read "Family as we define it according to our interpretation of the Bible." Jerry Fallwell, Pat Robertson and their ilk don't want freedom as you or I define it -- but freedom as they define it. I saw Pat Robertson deconstruct John Lennon's "Imagine" as communist indoctrination on his 700 Club once.

There is little difference between Mullah Omar and Falwell. Falwell just happens to live in a society where civil law takes precedence over scripture.

You don't have to be a member or agree with them on any of these things, Prodigal, but they have every right to their opinions and every right to exist as an organization and attempt to influence elections. Sheesh. It's a democracy for crying out loud. All voices get their hearing.


No, not everyone is free to voice their opinion freely. Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists are ridiculed and scorned for their beliefs. However, if you hide your hate between the pages of the Bible, people who point that out are seen as being "anti-christian" and full of bigotry themselves.

I'm not afraid to call "bullshit" when I see it. Fascism is still facism despite the fact their book is the Bible and not Mein Kampf.

Let's just look at some of the fine words of the religious right in this country. If you remove the words gay, homosexual, or lesbian and place Jew in its place I think you'll find these statements disturbingly familiar:

Pat Robertson:

Gays were behind Hitler

“When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany. Many of those people involved in Adolph Hitler were Satanists. Many of them were homosexuals. The two things seem to go together.” - 700 Club, 1-21-93 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Gays are appalling

“...What kind of craziness is it in our society which will put a cloak of secrecy around a group of people whose lifestyle is at best abominable. Homosexuality is an abomination. The practices of those people is appalling. It is a pathology. It is a sickness, and instead of thinking of giving these people a preferred status and privacy, we should treat AIDS exactly the same way as any other communicable disease...” - 700 Club, 6-6-88 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Gays want to disprupt churches, spread AIDS and spit at ministers

"[Homosexuals]want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers." Pat Robertson, 700 Club, 1/18/95 - People for the American Way Web site, http://www.pfaw.org/issues/right/rtvw.antigay.shtml

Homosexuality leads to decline of civilization

"...the acceptance of homosexuality is the last step in the decline of Gentile civilization." --Pat Robertson, of the Christian Broadcasting Network, warned that hurricanes could hit Orlando, Fla., because of gay events there. Time magazine, Oct 26, 1998


Entire world will suffer if homosexuality is accepted

“If the world accepts homosexuality as its norm and if it moves the entire world in that regard, the whole world is then going to be sitting like Sodom and Gomorrah before a Holy God. And when the wrath of God comes on this earth, we will all be guilty and we will all suffer for
it.” - 700 Club, 9-6-95 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Gays are diseased, depressed, and miserable

“You know, one of the great misnomers in our society is the term `gay.’ That somebody who is involved in something that is leading to suicide, where the V.D. rate is 11 times that of others, which are almost driven and ashamed and fearful and confused and psychotic and all the others that we read about plaguing this part of our society. The term gay is the most serious misuse of the English language. They’re not gay, they’re very, very depressed and miserable.” - 700 Club, 5-6-82 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Homosexuality is an anti-social sickness

“This conduct [homosexuality] is anti-social, and it is a pathology. It is a sickness, and it needs to be treated. It doesn’t need to be taught in the classroom as a preferred way of life...” - 700 Club, 3-7-90 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Gays are after children

“It’s one thing to say, `We have rights to jobs...we have rights to be left alone in out little corner of the world to do our thing.’ It’s an entirely different thing to say, well, `We’re not only going to go into the schools and we’re going to take your children and your grandchildren
and turn them into homosexuals.’ Now that’s wrong.” - 700 Club, 9-17-92 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Homosexuality means God has given up on society

“When you see the rise of blatant open homosexuality and lesbianism, what you also know is God has given a society up...and we’re at the mercy of the elements, the mercy of war, the mercy of economic disaster.” - 700 Club, 4-26-93 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Lesbians are against motherhood

"The radical left is doing everything they can to destroy the moral fiber of America. They want to do away with the family. I am absolutely persuaded one of the reasons so many lesbians are at the forefront of the pro-choice movement is because being a mother is the unique
characteristic of womanhood, and these lesbians will never be mothers naturally, so they don't want anybody else to have that privilege either." - 700 Club, 5-18-93 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Discrimination against gays...

“Since our nation was founded, we have discriminated against certain things. We discriminate against kidnappers. We discriminate against murderers. We discriminate against thieves...There are laws that prohibit that kind of conduct. And there have been laws since the founding of our country against what are considered unnatural sex acts, sex between members of the same sex.” - 700 Club, 12-24-93 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Homosexuality is "sodomy", repugnant

“The concept, the word for homosexual behavior is sodomy. That is what is used in the official documents. It is sodomy. It is repugnant. It has been prohibited and proscribed by sane society throughout countless millennia, centuries. People have understood that it is wrong. Now in America, not only is it happening, it is getting civil rights protection in the law, and these people are invading churches.” - 700 Club, 1-18-94 (source: People for the American Way Foundation)

Gays want to destroy Christians

"[Gays seek] to destroy all Christians." - People for the American Way, "Hostile Climate," 1994, p.9.

Jerry Falwell:

God hates homosexuality

"god hates homosexuality" - Jerry Falwell on TV (I've seen the actual footage)

Gays are perverts

"[Vice President Gore] recently praised the lesbian actress who plays 'Ellen' on ABC Television...I believe he may even put children, young people, and adults in danger by his public endorsement of deviant homosexual behavior...Our elected leaders are attempting to glorify and legitimize perversion." People for the American Way, "Hostile Climate", 1998, p.9.

Gays will crush all Americans

"Someone must not be afriad to say, 'moral perversion is wrong.' If we do not act now, homosexuals will 'own' America!...If you and I do not speak up now, this homosexual steamroller will leterally crush all decent men, women, and children who get in its way...and our nation will pay a terrible price!" - People for the American Way, "Hostile Climate," 1997, p.15.

The "Family" Research Council:

Gays will recognize pedophiles as prophets

"...one of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the 'prophets' of a new sexual order." - "Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys," FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf

Gays are pedophiles, and want to promote youth promiscuity

"There is a strong undercurrent of pedophilia in the homosexual subculture. Homosexual activists want to promote the flouting of traditional sexual prohibitions at the earliest possible age....they want to encourage a promiscuous society - and the best place to start is with a young and credulous captive audience in the public schools." - Robert Knight, Family Research Council, http://www.frc.org/insight/is93f1hs.html

Columbine killers might be gay/bisexual

"What Are The Media Hiding?....the media have been slow to give a full profile of the killers -avoiding any mention of their alleged bisexuality as reported by several students....Matt Drudge describes them in his report as 'gay, jock-hating, confederate flag-wearing, goth rock & Marilyn Manson loving, white supremacist, fingernail polish wearing, Hitler birthday celebrating outcasts'....One student shortly after the attack said they were militant 'gays' who were retaliating against jocks. Another student said on NBC's Today Show that the trench coat kids bragged about being bisexual... No American news outlet has reported that bi-sexuality could have played a part in the tragedy." - FRC's "CultureFacts", April 21, 1999, http://www.frc.org/culture/cu99d3.html

Matt Shepard, and gays generally, will not inherit the kingdom of God

"homosexuals are included in a list of sinners, who, if unrepentant, will not inherit the kingdom of God." - Family Research Council press release about Matt Shepard's funeral, on the day of the funeral, October 16, 1998, http://www.frc.org/press/101698.html. The release implied that a gay person who had not yet become, or tried to become, an "ex-gay" was "unrepentant."

Matt Shepard compared to a drunk

" 'They create a climate and environment of intolerance and give license to those who seek to vent their rage or frustration on an entire community,' Human Rights Campaign executive director Elizabeth Birch said Wednesday, addressing a Washington rally attended by the likes of actress Ellen DeGeneres and Alan Simpson, a Republican former senator from Wyoming. Ms. Farish vehemently rejects such allegations. 'Don't blame AA because a drunk was beat up,' she said." - Heather Farish of the Family Research Council, quoted in the Dallas Morning News article, "Why now? Other gays have been victims of brutal attacks, but the slaying of a Wyoming student has caused a national outcry," by Brooks Egerton, October 17, 1998.

Gays are deviants

"Homosexuals have never been forced to sit in the back of the bus. They are as privileged a group as any. To compare their attempts to affirm deviant sexual conduct to the legitimate discrimination claims of true minorities is a sham," said FRC Director of Cultural Studies Robert H.
Knight - FRC's CultureFacts, July 28, 1999, http://www.frc.org/culture/cu99g4.html

Gays hate God

"[Homosexuality] is the opposite of love for God. It is a rebellion against God and God's natural order, and embodies a deep-seated hatred against true religion." - THE ASSAULT ON CHRISTIANS BY THE MILITANT HOMOSEXUAL MOVEMENT, by Steven A. Schwalm, Family Research Council, http://www.frc.org/podium/pd98j2hs.html

Gays think religion is evil

Religion is treated as irrelevant or downright evil. Homosexual books, magazines, and newspapers are filled with bitter and often obscene denunciations of religion in general and Christianity in particular. One activist calls for the outlawing of churches that disapprove of homosexual conduct. Another carefully outlines an advertising campaign that equates Christian clergy with Nazis and Klansmen. Homosexual stage performers dress up in clerical garb and commit obscene acts. A gay rights cartoonist depicts Christ having anal intercourse with His cross. These are not isolated examples from an otherwise gentle and loving literature. The attitude pervades the homosexual movement and is an essential part of their ideal curriculum. - Family Research Council, THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA IN SCHOOLS, by Robert H. Knight, http://www.frc.org/insight/is93f1hs.html

Gays oppose Christianity

"Militant homosexuality is fundamentally opposed to religion, family, and anything that presupposes a natural moral order, a transcendent God, or something else higher than ourselves. The activist homosexual agenda and worldview are fundamentally incompatible with Christianity or any form of true religion, because homosexuality is ultimately narcissism" - THE ASSAULT ON CHRISTIANS BY THE MILITANT HOMOSEXUAL MOVEMENT, by Steven A. Schwalm, Family Research Council, http://www.frc.org/podium/pd98j2hs.html

Comparing gay Christians to Satan worshippers

"Religious Right groups went on the attack against President Clinton after Rev. Troy Perry, a gay minister, was included among the 120 religious leaders taking part in an ecumenical breakfast at the White House. Family Research Council's Robert Knight said, 'We are witnessing the Administration's moral meltdown. What's next? A memorial to Church of Satan founder Anton LeVay?' " - People for the American Way Web site, http://www.pfaw.org/news/press//show.cg ... =903565285

Homosexuality can kill you

Gary Bauer: "involvement in homosexuality can kill you. It can kill you emotionally, it can kill you physically, and it can certainly kill you spiritually." - Oct 16, 96 - Family Research Council Web site, http://www.frc.org/net/st96j3.html

Gays spit on Jesus

"Homosexual activists who once asked for tolerance now show no tolerance or sympathy for Christians whose sacred symbols they defile. They are totalitarians who accuse everyone that disagrees with them of "hatred." Even as they masquerade under the banner of tolerance, they spit on the most sacred Person revered and worshipped by millions. They mock our religious symbols, deride our beliefs, and even desecrate our churches and sacraments. " - - THE ASSAULT ON CHRISTIANS BY THE MILITANT HOMOSEXUAL MOVEMENT, by Steven A. Schwalm, Family Research Council, http://www.frc.org/podium/pd98j2hs.html

Lesbians hate men

"hatred for men, which is very typical of a lesbian experience" - Kristi Hamrick, FRC, Oct 16, 96, Family Research Council Web site, http://www.frc.org/net/st96j3.html

Gays think they're exempt from God's rules

Robert Knight: "one of the bigger lies that is told about the lifestyle is that somehow homosexuals are different from the rest of us, that they have an exemption from the responsibility to live by the rules of nature and nature's God that the rest of us have."- Oct 16, 96 - Family Research Council Web site, http://www.frc.org/net/st96j3.html

Homosexuality is a "life destroyer" - destroys families, shatters hope

Robert Knight: "The sexual revolution, of which homosexual activism is a key part, has laid waste to countless lives, destroyed families, and shattered hope for people who have been cast adrift into a deadly carnival of excess. It's time to reaffirm the permanent things of marriage and family and sexual sanity. It's time to throw people a life preserver instead of a life destroyer, which the homosexual subculture surely is."- December 1997 Address at Harvard, http://www.frc.org/podium/pd97l1hs.html

Gays are diseased, die early, and are less productive than heterosexuals

"homosexual behavior is extremely unhealthy, contributing to the spread of AIDS, hepatitis A, B and C and other sexually transmitted diseases….A study of more than 6,400 obituaries in homosexual publications reveals that homosexuals typically have far shorter life spans than the general population. Other reports indicate that homosexuals are more likely to have drug and alcohol abuse problems. It is unfair to force businesses to pay the extra insurance expense and lost productivity that inevitably results from homosexual behavior." [Editors note: the source for this "research" is the discredited Dr. Paul Cameron - see below for extensive information about his extreme beliefs]
- Robert Knight, Family Research Council, testifying at ENDA Hearings, July 29, 1994 - committee on Labor and Human Resources, US Senate.

This is a "war" against "destructive" homosexuals

"...wage the war against the homosexual agenda." - From the Web site of Bauer's Family Research Council, which calls homosexuality "destructive", source: Time magazine, Oct 26, 1998.

Gays are hateful towards Christians, have exploited Matt

"using hateful rhetoric against Christians....Homosexual activists have ignored that father's plea and have exploited Matthew's death" - Family Research Council press release about Matt Shepard's funeral, on the day of the funeral, October 16, 1998, http://www.frc.org/press/101698.html

Gays hurt civil rights movement

Robert Knight:"Gay activists' hijacking of the moral capital of the civil rights movement is undercutting the central message of that movement."- December 1997 Address at Harvard, http://www.frc.org/podium/pd97l1hs.html

Gays hurt people, families and communities

"homosexual behavior hurts people, families, and communities."- Robert Knight, March 1997 speech, http://www.frc.org/podium/pd97clhs.html

Gays threaten religious freedom

"Same-sex 'marriage' threatens not only the integrity of the marital definition but also religious freedom." - http://www.frc.org/fampol/fp96bhs.html

Gays aren't monogamous

"monogamy is not the norm for the average homosexual." - http://www.frc.org/fampol/fp96bhs.html

Gays are security risks

"homosexuals are a security risk" - http://www.frc.org/insight/is95d1hm.html

Gays embrace culture of death, risk well-being of all society

"Those who practice homosexuality embrace a culture of death. They risk their lives as well as their mental and spiritual well-being....a band of radical activists, many of them highly placed, put the well being of all society at risk to satisfy their craving for approval." - People for the American Way, "Hostile Climate," 1998, p. 9.

Gays are after children

"Homosexual activists have made such strides in gaining acceptance that now they feel the final frontier is the children. That's been the goal all along: get the next generation." People for the American Way, "Hostile Climate, 1988, p.9.

More on gays are after children

"Homosexuals say they don't want the children, but boy they put a lot of energy into going after them." - Robert Knight of FRC writing in a Focus on the Family newsletter, quoted by People for the American Way, "Hostile Climate," 1997, p.15.

Lesbians drink, do drugs, or are hateful

When asked "Do you think most lesbians, when they first get involved in lesbianism, think it’s wrong?", Yvette Cantu of the Family Research Council responded: "Yeah, you know it’s wrong. And then you either drink or do drugs to get past those feelings of knowing it’s wrong, or you blame it on society and become aggressive and hateful. Those are your options." - AFTAH Web site interview, http://www.americansfortruth.org/ycc_interview.html

Lesbians are dysfunctional

"What people commonly call “dysfunction” is everywhere in the lesbian community. Once I went to this party at someone’s house, and none of the women there drank because they were all alcoholics. So it ends up that this is a dry, AA lesbian poker party. I thought, “What am I doing here? This is crazy. Why do I want to go to a dry poker party?” I don’t even know how to play poker. This is weird." - AFTAH Web site interview with FRC's Yvette Cantu, http://www.americansfortruth.org/ycc_interview.htm

Gays don't like children

"To me, thinking that a gay [male] couple would even want to adopt a child is bizarre [because] I can’t imagine them wanting that kind of responsibility. The homosexuals I knew who had been married before had already dumped their kids on their ex-wives, and were perfectly happy to see them two weeks out of the year! If they had children, what would happen when they were too busy having their sex parties?" - AFTAH Web site interview with FRC's Yvette Cantu, http://www.americansfortruth.org/ycc_interview.htm

Gays only think about sex

At different [sex] parties, I would say, “This is all you guys talk about.” Every joke was somehow sexual. Every movement was somehow sexual. There was nothing that was ever talked about that didn’t have to do with sex. And I said, “What is wrong with you that you can’t think about anything else?” “What else is there?” was invariably the response. Always. It would concern me."- AFTAH Web site interview with FRC's Yvette Cantu, http://www.americansfortruth.org/ycc_interview.htm

Gays don't support monogamy, child-rearing, family values

When asked about gay Americans who support monogamy, child-rearing and family values, FRC's Yvette Cantu responded: "I want to know who’s saying this, besides HRC [the Human Rights Campaign, the largest homosexual lobby group] … Is it the men in the gay bars and bathhouses taking a look at their lives and saying, 'We need to settle down, pull together a family and live normally?' No, the only people who are saying this are the activists who are trying to gain special rights for homosexuals. They’re saying, 'Look, if we play it right we can get the special rights we want. Stop making us look bad.' But the people who are 'making homosexuals look bad' are pretty much the entire male homosexual subculture."- AFTAH Web site interview with FRC's Yvette Cantu, http://www.americansfortruth.org/ycc_interview.htm

Lesbianism akin to eating off the floor

"You don’t have to eat the stale crumbs off the dirty floor, which is basically what lesbianism is."- AFTAH Web site interview with FRC's Yvette Cantu, http://www.americansfortruth.org/ycc_interview.htm

Gays are after children

"Gaining access to children has been a long-term goal of the homosexual movement." - "Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys," FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf

Gays only pretend to oppose pedophilia

"In the United States, homosexual activists are more circumspect about their efforts to gain access to children...homosexual activists publicly disassociate themselves from pedophiles as part of a public relations strategy"- "Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys," FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf

Gays are 33% of child molesters

"they constitute about a third of child molesters." - "Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys," FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf

Gays commit 80% of child molestations

"it is estimated that approximately 80% of pedophilic victims are boys who have been molested by adult males." - "Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys," FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf

More on gays only pretend to oppose pedophilia

"The homosexual rights movement has tried to distance itself from pedophilia, but only for public relations purposes." - "Homosexual Activists Work to Normalize Sex With Boys," FRC publication, July 1999, http://www.frc.org/misc/bl057.pdf

Gay relationships are unpure, perversion of God

"Hanes said what has struck him most about married life is its purity -- a quality, he said, that is always lacking in homosexual relationships. 'It wasn't until my marriage that I understood what a gift from God this really is, and what a perversion of God's ideal homosexuality is.' " - FRC's CultureFacts, June 23, 1999, http://www.frc.org/culture/cu99f4.html

Gays may destroy American family

"Legally destroying the exclusive territory of marriage to achieve a political end will not provide the real benefits of marriage to homosexuals, but it may be the blow that the shattered American family does not survive." - Kristi Hamrick http://www.frc.org/net/st96d2.html

Gays are like a gun to the head of America

"That's what we're talking about whenever you're talking about gay rights. You're talking about giving somebody a gun to put at the head of anybody who disagrees with them, whether it's the Boy Scouts, whether it's a local dry-cleaning establishment or a giant corporation like Shell Oil." - Robert Knight, http://www.frc.org/net/st96d2.html

Gays oppose monogamy

"one thing that has been interesting to me is the gay literature has come right out and said we can't keep monogamy in our definition of marriage. We may have a significant relationship we'll call marriage, but things like monogamy and fidelity, faithfulness, and lifetime kind of till-death-do-us-part commitments are a little unrealistic. So we want it to be marriage, but we don't want it to be monogamous." - Kristi Hamrick , http://www.frc.org/net/st96d2.html

Gay parents lead to prison, voyeurism

"I know a guy who has just entered jail, tragically, because he grew up in a lesbian household. He still loves his mother and doesn't really blame her, but he said, 'You know, as a boy in a lesbian environment where it was intensely anti-male' -- that's all he heard, this bitterness toward men -- he said that he felt totally disenfranchised, began having sexual problems. He eventually became a voyeur, and he is in on a peeping Tom charge. He was so curious about how normal people have sex. We have other people that are cases like this." - Robert Knight, http://www.frc.org/net/st96d2.html

Homosexuals in the bedroom

"Homosexuals do not do what mom and dad do in the bedroom. They don't provide children the role models that mom and dad do" - Robert Knight, http://www.frc.org/net/st96d2.html

Gays against home, family

"Homosexual and lesbian activists have made it clear in recent days that they are in this fight to change the world -- from one that values and cherishes home, family, and heterosexual marriage as the cornerstone of society to one that says anything goes." - Kristi Hamrick, http://www.frc.org/net/st95l1.html

Gays are about promiscuity, violence

"Homosexuality is not merely about a harmless personal preference. It is about a lifestyle that involves having sex with another person of the same gender. More often than anyone would like to admit, it's about promiscuity — and even violence. It is about unnatural, unsafe, and unhealthy behavior." - http://www.frc.org/ie/ie98j.html - Laurel L. Cornell

Gays are tragic misuse of sexuality

"Homosexual behavior is a misuse of sexuality that has tragic consequences for individuals, families and communities." - Robert Knight, http://www.frc.org/podium/pd97l1hs.html

Christian Coalition of Maine's Paul Volle


Gays ingest urine and fecal matter

"Being frustrated by the biological impossibility of natural sexual relations between members of the same sex, they must resort to bringing their mouth into contact with areas of the body designed for the elimination of human waste, or use body apertures not meant for sexual penetration, either of which causes serious hygienic and health risks. Once these homosexuals bridge the natural reluctance to come into contact with human waste, a significant number of homosexuals go further and further. Many times to the point of ingesting the urine and fecal matter of their partners. This leads to serious health risks to not only them, but the population at large, through the food chain, medical services, and other avenues of society." - - Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, "The Gay Agenda," October 1998 (I have the original of this publication)

Family Research Council Web sites lauds Volle, others who wrote Gay Agenda

"Bauer congratulated Mike Heath of the Christian Civic League of Maine for spearheading the People's Veto, as well as Paul Volle of the Christian Coalition of Maine, and Paul and Susan Madore of Maine Grassroots Coalition"[Paul Madore was a contributing writer to "The Gay Agenda"] - http://www.frc.org/press/021098c.html, Family Research Council Web site, Feb. 10, 1998, "HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS" LAW OVERTURNED IN MAINE

Portland paper calls publication "despicable….vile….hate literature"

"A despicable publication called ‘The Gay Agenda’ "

"The piece of hate literature that Paul Volle, Mark Finks and others have produced in the form of political advertising, however, goes beyond the bounds of taste, fairness and rational dialogue. It seeks to achieve through fear and misinformation what they cannot hope to achieve otherwise. Every slur, stereotype and untruth they could think of concerning gay men and lesbians has been cited as though it were legitimate information."

"offensive, inflammatory, inaccurate and vile" - Portland Press Herald, October 29, 1998

Portland paper calls publication "16 pages of pure, homophobic hatred"

"Product of sick minds. May not be suitable for civilized society….homophobic….unsolicited, unsubstantiated and unadulterated filth….vile and ill-informed….hateful smut….16 pages of pure, homophobic hatred." - PORTLAND PRESS HERALD, October 30, 1998

Gays have deviant sexual behavior

"What do ‘homosexuals’ do? They typically engage in oral or anal sodomy, or mutual masturbation, with members of the same sex. Admittedly, the homosexuals do not have a monopoly on bizarre sexual practices, but their initial attraction to unnatural acts seems to draw them in disproportionate numbers to more widely known practices like masochism and sadism, and less known practices like "fisting" and "rimming." They are also known to practice other forms of deviant sexual behavior that is unacceptable to the preponderance of society." - Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, "The Gay Agenda," October 1998

Gays chose to get AIDS

"In light of recent research on AIDS, it was discovered that the average homosexual who was interviewed had 550 different sexual partners. Those with AIDS, (I refuse to call them AIDS victims, because the vast majority received the disease by deviant sexual behavior and drug usage which they choose), when considered by themselves average 1,100 different sexual partners, and some reported as many as 20,000." - Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, "The Gay Agenda," October 1998

Gays rape children

"They commit over 33% of the sex acts with children. Of the pupil molestations, homosexual teachers commit as many as 80% of those acts. Therefore, it would seem to me that we are increasing the risk of our children being molested by allowing homosexuals to teach our children. There are those in our school systems that say the homosexual has every right to influence our children. Why, let them steal the innocence of our children?" - Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, "The Gay Agenda," October 1998

Gays are diseased

"Although the homosexuals represent 2-4% of the U.S. population they carry over 44% of the nations syphilis, 51% of gonorrhea of the throat, 53% of intestinal infections and 80% of the AIDS disease. Diseased homosexual food handlers in public restaurants in San Francisco and Minneapolis, have been responsible for major outbreaks of amebiasis and hepatitis A infections. The homosexuals have a rate of infectious hepatitis B, 20 to 50 times greater than heterosexual males." - Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, "The Gay Agenda," October 1998

Sodomites rights

"Imagine a call for ‘sodomites’ rights.’ In order for sodomites to get around this distasteful, but accurate image, they have created the terminology ‘gay rights’. "- Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, "The Gay Agenda," October 1998

Diseased gays endanger children

"Often parents of young boys seek non-gay role-models for their children to foster and encourage heterosexuality for their boys through adolescence. The parents concern is understandable, considering adults involved in homosexuality are:

8 times more likely to have hepatitis than non-gays,
14 times more likely to have syphilis,
5000 times more likely to have AIDS

Furthermore:

The median age of death for a homosexual NOT having AIDS: 42 yrs.
Percentage of homosexuals living to old age: 9%
The median age of death for lesbians: 45 yrs.
Percent living to old age: 26%"

- "The Gay Agenda", published by Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, October 1998

Discriminating against gays is "OK"

"Practicing homosexuals individually may come up against anti-gay societal sentiment in the form of denied jobs or housing. This is OK." - "The Gay Agenda", published by Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, October 1998

Being gay is akin to pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia

"Morality is the basis for every marriage law. To throw out morality is to bring in every perversion: Adultery; Homosexuality; Exhibitionism, Incest, Prostitution, Pedophilia, Bestiality, Sadism, Masochism, and Necrophilia." -"The Gay Agenda", published by Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, October 1998

Gays against commitment, monogamy

"Homosexuality precludes commitment and monogamy" - - "The Gay Agenda", published by Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, October 1998

Gays recruit children

"Homosexuality is not a private concern. Its participants are public and vocal, desiring to propagate their sexual behavior among the next generation." "The Gay Agenda", published by Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, October 1998

Gays aren’t safe or masculine

"Many single mothers depend on the association of Boy Scouts for safe, masculine role models to assist them in teaching their sons to be men. A mother’s preference for straight men as role models for her children is not bigotry. It is loving concern." - "The Gay Agenda", published by Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, October 1998

Gays are diseased

"It is estimated that fifty percent (50%) of gay males in this country are HIV-positive. Another study has shown that gay men have an average life span of only 41 years." - "The Gay Agenda", published by Paul Volle, Chairman, Christian Coalition of Maine, October 1998


I am not a homosexual. But I can recognize hate-filled attacks against a minority group when I see it. I am not against people practicing faith. I find it silly, but that is their right. Nor, in fact, do I oppose religious folks using their religion as a base for their stance on political issues. What I do oppose, however, is a virulent form of Christianity using the Bible as a shield to mask an agenda most American's would oppose while calling those who oppose or question them "sinners."
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Postby patriot » Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:26 pm

"Mr. President! What about the war?"

"Well, we're doing some stuff, we're talking to some people, and well let ya know."

"Mr. President! What about the economy?"

"Well, we're doing some stuff, we're making some graphs, we're talking to some people, and we'll let ya know."

"Mr. President! What about gay marriage?"

"Fuck them faggots!"

-Chris Rock on George Bush.
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Postby Buzzsaw » Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:33 pm

Prodigal, that's fine, you can object to them all you want, but they have their right to be heard just like everyone else. Don't forget that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have ministries that have helped tens of thousands of the poor, handicapped, single mothers, and many others whether they are Christian or not. So look for the good in all people, even if you don't agree with their politics.

For the record, John Lennon's imagine IS a communist/atheist indoctrination load of crapola, although it rings hollow coming from a millionaire rock star. Plus, it's just a stupid pop tune, so it isn't worth the scrutiny that Falwell gave it.
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Why they shouldn't be partisan

Postby Vincent » Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:03 pm

Buzz:

The reason their voter guide should not be partisan, and why it is in fact illegal for it to be partisan is that they are an organization that benefits from a federal tax exemption.

So, people who contribute to them can write off those contributions on their income tax, like a charity. However, part of the deal that allows for that is that the organization cannot engage in partisan political activities. So, the argument will be made that the Christian Coalition should lost their tax-exepmt status.
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Postby Captain_Solo » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:23 pm

Here is why I loathe that moron Pat Robertson:

Under no circumstances is Jehovah, the God of the Bible, and Allah, of the Koran, the same. First of all, the God of the Bible is a God of love and redemption, who sent His Son into the world to die for our sins. Allah tells people to die for him in order to get salvation, but there is no understanding of salvation. Allah was the moon god from Mecca. That is why Islam has the crescent moon. The flag of Turkey has a crescent moon with a star in it. Well, the crescent moon is because Allah was the moon god, and that is the deal. But we don't serve a moon god. We serve the God of creation, the Creator of everything.

And people say, "Well, I am not threatened by it." The trouble is, we have got a virulent group of probably 150 million Muslims who are fanatic, and if you read the Koran, it says if you see an infidel and if he won't convert or give alms, then kill him. That's what it teaches. That’s what the jihad is all about. But we’re sanitizing that religion to make it acceptable, our President has said it is a peaceful religion. It is no such thing.

Somehow I wish the Jews in America would wake up, open their eyes and read what is being said about them. This is worse than the Nazis. Adolf Hitler was bad, but what the Muslims want to do to the Jews is worse. The idea that you are going to make peace with the Muslim world by giving them territory is an absolute illusion. Yet, at the same time the so-called "doves" in America will criticize anybody who says anything against Islam, including me, if I say something that Islam is an erroneous religion, I get criticized by the Anti-Defamation League. You just say, when are you guys going to open your eyes and see who your enemy is? Those people want to destroy Jews. The Koran teaches that the end of the world will not come until every Jew is killed by the Muslims. The Muslims must eliminate every single Jew before there will be a final conclusion of this world and the next kingdom comes into being. That is taught in the Koran, plus the fact, they are like apes and pigs. This is not exactly conducive to peace and brotherhood.

This is a man how has a television show (700 Club) and a whole network (CBN) and has millions of followers. The Evangalical Christian Zionists want to wipe Muslims off the face of the earth. They think we are the armies of the anti-Christ and Pat Robertson is quick to parrot this bs. Of course Pat has colon cancer (which he probably blames on us).

Jerry Falwell:

"Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses. I think Muhammad set an opposite example."

"I think Muhammad was a terrorist. I read enough of the history of his life written by both Muslims and - non-Muslims, (to know) that he was a – a violent man, a man of war."


What example of love did the Biblical version of Moses set, Mr. Falwell? The mass extermination of Amalekites and Canaanites perhaps?

Jerry Vines:

Islam was founded by Muhammad, a demon-possessed pedophile who had 12 wives and his last one was a 9-year-old girl. And I will tell you Allah is not Jehovah either. Jehovah's not going to turn you into a terrorist that'll try to bomb people and take the lives of thousands and thousands of people.

Christians talking about pedophilea, how ironic.

Franklin Graham:

We're not attacking Islam but Islam has attacked us. The God of Islam is not the same God. He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God, and I believe it [Islam] is a very evil and wicked religion.

I don’t believe this is a wonderful, peaceful religion. When you read the Koran and you read the verses from the Koran, it instructs the killing of the infidel, for those that are non-Muslim.


And then we have the whore-monger Jimmy Swaggart saying crap like Muhammad (s.a.w) a "sex deviant," "pervert," and "pedophile".
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Postby patriot » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:29 pm

Christians talking about pedophilea, how ironic.


Fuck you.
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Postby Dim » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:34 pm

Prodigal - last time I checked, neo-nazis did (and should) have the right to freedom of speech, same as everyone else.
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Re: Why they shouldn't be partisan

Postby Buzzsaw » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:52 pm

Vincent wrote:Buzz:

The reason their voter guide should not be partisan, and why it is in fact illegal for it to be partisan is that they are an organization that benefits from a federal tax exemption.

So, people who contribute to them can write off those contributions on their income tax, like a charity. However, part of the deal that allows for that is that the organization cannot engage in partisan political activities. So, the argument will be made that the Christian Coalition should lost their tax-exepmt status.


Good post, Vincent. If that's truly the case, then maybe they SHOULD lose their tax exempt status. I assume they are tax exempt because they are a "church"?

Of course, that opens a Pandora's box...what if the local pastor urges you to vote for a particular candidate? Should that church lose its tax exempt status?

And when is partisan partisan. Do you have to indicate which candidates/party you support, or is the position on issues enough to define partisanship?
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Re: Why they shouldn't be partisan

Postby Aegis » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:12 pm

Buzzsaw wrote:
Vincent wrote:Buzz:

The reason their voter guide should not be partisan, and why it is in fact illegal for it to be partisan is that they are an organization that benefits from a federal tax exemption.

So, people who contribute to them can write off those contributions on their income tax, like a charity. However, part of the deal that allows for that is that the organization cannot engage in partisan political activities. So, the argument will be made that the Christian Coalition should lost their tax-exepmt status.


Good post, Vincent. If that's truly the case, then maybe they SHOULD lose their tax exempt status. I assume they are tax exempt because they are a "church"?

Of course, that opens a Pandora's box...what if the local pastor urges you to vote for a particular candidate? Should that church lose its tax exempt status?

And when is partisan partisan. Do you have to indicate which candidates/party you support, or is the position on issues enough to define partisanship?


No, I believe they are tax-exempt as a non-profit organization. Different rules than churches and all that.
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Postby Prodigal Son » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:46 pm

Prodigal - last time I checked, neo-nazis did (and should) have the right to freedom of speech, same as everyone else.


You don't get my point Dim -- yes, everybody has freedom of speech and thus the right to organize politically, but some groups that spew out the same type of nonsense as the neo-nazis get a pass from scorn and ridicule simply because they hide behind the cross.

If they're nazi / KKK fanatics our society shuns them. If they're MUSLIM religious fanatics our society scorns them. IF, however, they're CHRISTIAN religious fanatics, attacking them and pointing out their hate and hypocrisy suddenly becomes taboo. Indeed, politicians try to court their vote. In essence, Jerry Falwell isn't a hate-filled bible-thumping facist, you're "anti-christian" for saying he is. Somehow they get a pass for putting out BS and few call them on it because it touches upon issues of religious faith.

And buzz, you're right about the Lennon song. It is socialist in nature. What distrubs me is a man of "faith" like Pat Roberston spending 20 minutes of air time on it instead of spending 20 minutes calling forth for people to love thy neighbor.
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