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US should ditch Taiwan: New York Times op-ed

Postby Fenrisco » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:09 am

I just happened to find this, hardly recent news, but still disturbing. This guy was a Marine? How embarrassing.



Commie pandas must have slipped something into the water cooler at the New York Times yesterday, because the paper ran a shockingly ignorant and naïve op-ed suggesting that the US sell out Taiwan to China if Beijing would write off the US$1.14 trillion in American debt it currently holds.

In To Save Our Economy, Ditch Taiwan, former Marine and Harvard fellow Paul V. Kane states that America's relationship with Taiwan is a Cold War anachronism that offers little strategic benefit to the US, observing that "absorption into mainland China is inevitable." Kane notes that such a deal would benefit China economically, as it would no longer have to spend the US$30 billion to US$50 billion a year that it currently uses for things like the 1,500 missiles China has pointed at Taiwan.

Kane wants President Barack Obama to make a backroom deal with the Communists in Beijing in which the US would agree to end "American military assistance and arms sales to Taiwan and terminate the current United States-Taiwan defense arrangement by 2015."

We're Next Media Animation, not Foreign Affairs. So here it is in a nutshell: China would not stop with Taiwan. Gobbling up Taiwan is only one step in the People's Liberation Army Navy's plans (paywall) to develop a blue water navy that would project power out to Hawaii. If the US abandoned Taiwan, American allies in the region would wonder if they were next and reevaluate their own relationships with the US; if China controlled Taiwan, it would have a stranglehold on Japan and South Korea, which rely on maritime trade for survival.

Kane repeats a common misconception that since Taiwan "is gradually integrating with China economically" its "absorption into mainland China is inevitable." Taiwan is becoming deeply integrated economically with China and it shares a common culture and national language with China. So what? Canada speaks English and is tied economically to the US up the yin-yang. Is Canada's absorption into America also inevitable?

Selling out Taiwan to shed 10% of the national debt would not change the political and economic dysfunction that got the US into trouble in the first place. It would only strengthen China's hand.
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Re: US should ditch Taiwan: New York Times op-ed

Postby gnaruki » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:28 am

Fuck that shit. I love Taiwan's weird yankee influenced charm.

They are also much better at making bicycles and cell phones than the chicoms.
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Re: US should ditch Taiwan: New York Times op-ed

Postby Fenrisco » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:06 am

gnaruki wrote:They are also much better at making bicycles


I must admit that the sentence "Win a giant folding bicycle" in a corporate email a few years ago had me totally stumped until I realized Giant is a cycle brand name. "Just how big is it?" I was wondering. "Bigger than a house? That would be cool."

Yankee-influenced is right. Folks here take what works and ditch the rest. So we have a liberty-based but harmonic society; Confucian Enlightenment. I rather like it. I might have the opportunity to move to the US in the next wee while but have no plans to make it permanent. Although having said that dawn is breaking over the mountains as I type and it's looking like another wintry crapness. Might as well have stayed in Glasgow as far as the weather is concerned this time of year. We're in a tea-growing area which means being stuck inside a cloud several months of the year. Better than being stuck in the PRC, of course.
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Re: US should ditch Taiwan: New York Times op-ed

Postby Mikethehack » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:40 pm

Falklands with nuclear weapons for Yankees.
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Re: US should ditch Taiwan: New York Times op-ed

Postby gnaruki » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:56 am

Fenrisco wrote:Although having said that dawn is breaking over the mountains as I type and it's looking like another wintry crapness. Might as well have stayed in Glasgow as far as the weather is concerned this time of year. We're in a tea-growing area which means being stuck inside a cloud several months of the year. Better than being stuck in the PRC, of course.


That marine gloom screwed with me. Whats that lake outside of Taipei like a two hour car ride? Still a jungle up there.

I remember watching some global warming bike parade when I was there. All these taiwanese had surgeon masks on with CO2 written on them with a red circle slash layed over the CO2. IDIOTS!!!!! you're breathing that shit out as you pedal along.
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Re: US should ditch Taiwan: New York Times op-ed

Postby LechoZX » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:29 pm

That guy is pretty fuckin' stupid, but at least he is right about one thing: The missiles would no longer be pointed at Taiwan, they would be on the island.

Taiwan should be the business alternative to dealing with the Chicoms, but for some reason nobody things about it that way.
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