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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby Penta » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:47 pm

ROB wrote:Let me put it another way Penta.

Of the last 20 people to dine at your house, did the majority have more in common with the 30k independent wealth guy, or the 100k bling guy?


That's an interesting exercise. And the answer is none of them had anything much in common with either. I could only remember the last 18 who've eaten or stayed here: a librarian, a primary school teacher, a journalist, someone who runs a swimming club, a sail-maker, a watch-repairer and jeweller, a film producer, a doctor, another freelance book editor, a former primary teacher who runs a junk stall, five students, a pizza-delivery boy, a junior bank employee and my mother-in-law. No independent wealth there, or bling: ordinary people with ordinary jobs or small businesses. 4 French, 3 Chilean, 1 Argentinean, 1 Spanish and 9 British. Oh, yes: now I remember 4 more, who came for drinks and tapas, which might count: the head of BBC Radio (since retired), her husband (who according to her Wiki page was former head of planning for the NHS: there's a job not to hanker after), the head of a film and TV production company, and the former senior director or producer of Granada TV's World in Action: I don't know how they fit - all very well off now, I assume and the 2 men working in the private sector now, but previously public service types all of them. The film/TV man and his wife both started poor, but are getting very rich, and he's tight as a clam's arse, as it happens - but as he says himself: Scottish and Jewish, what do you expect? The radio/NHS couple might have had some inherited wealth, I don't know: distinguished Jewish immigrant family from Belarus; Fettes and Oxford. I can't see what that list tells you, except that nearly all our friends and acquaintances have worked hard and made their own way, sometimes very successfully, sometimes with no interest in material success.

And while I can't really be bothered looking up stuff at you behest (fallen into that trap before and it's usually simply dismissed or ignored therefore a waste of time on my part), I do recall you being fairly critical of US giving in past conversations. The point of the boat comment was to point out hypocrisy. (Is this the second or third time I have repeated the reason?).

Yes, but where exactly is the hypocrisy? I still think you're barking up the wrong tree: I've criticised US state international aid (legitimately, since the richest of the OECD countries usually comes bottom or next to bottom of the list); I don't think I've ever criticised levels of personal donation - why would I? Your charge of hypocrisy on the grounds that I allow Mr Penta to keep his precious boat and don't insist he sell it to feed the poor only stands if I accuse others of not selling their possessions to feed the poor, which I have certainly never done. If you were as decent and honourable in discussion as you like to make out you are, you need to withdraw the charge, which is clearly invalid. (Not that I'm never hypocritical, but that's no evidence for it.)

As for back in your day, everyone knew about money, well the evidence doesn't add up. If the lowliest janitor puts away 10% of his earnings (another golden money rule) he will probably die a millionaire. Pretty sure there wasn't a surge in Janatorial millionaires in the 60s and 70s. The working poor have always been the working poor.

"Back in my day" caretakers or cleaners (we don't have janitors) didn't earn anything like enough to put away 10% of their earnings: and yes, would have stayed part of the working poor.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby Mikethehack » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:25 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, this is getting a bit personal.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby Penta » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:44 pm

Mikethehack wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, this is getting a bit personal.
Manners please. Queensbury rules.


You're quite right, Mike: I should apologise for swearing at flipflop and wish him a happy recovery from his Twelfth hangover.
Shes never interfered with me. I have no complaints about her.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby soulohio » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:07 pm

Penta wrote:
You're quite right, Mike: I should apologise for swearing at flipflop and wish him a happy recovery from his Twelfth hangover.


give him time, he's only a lad. i encourage everyone to break through that glass cieling of 12 hangovers and drive onto tripple digits. i've done it and still gassing after all these years....Cheers!
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby Mikethehack » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:12 pm

soulohio wrote:
Penta wrote:
You're quite right, Mike: I should apologise for swearing at flipflop and wish him a happy recovery from his Twelfth hangover.


give him time, he's only a lad. i encourage everyone to break through that glass cieling of 12 hangovers and drive onto tripple digits. i've done it and still gassing after all these years....Cheers!


Still haven't mastered the ability to spell correctly while drunk, have you? I'll have you know that Lady Penta is a publisher and she looks down on those who can't arrange their Ps and Qs correctly. Give up and let me have her. You don't stand a chance and you know it.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby nowonmai » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:10 pm

Hyacinth getting her silk knickers in a twist by any chance? I'm only watching the outgoing, given that I no longer hover through the fog and filthy air of her enemy lines, but having started a thread about herself called Penta bashing it looks like the old Trot traitor has bitten off a bit more than she can chew. Couldn't happen to a nicer terrorist cheerleading, champagne socialist.

Did she ever answer the question about the moral rectitiude of her Iraqi resistance heroes conducting attacks on the UK mainland? Oh wait, she didn't? You surprise me. Why is she afraid to stand up for her principles or is she worried about a previous criminal record? Any self-respecting Trot has got one, if only for Greenham. Who gives a fuck anyway, she's in the silent ranks of the cyber dead to me and after you've finished playing buzkashi with her, I suggest you do the same.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby ROB » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:39 am

Apologies if I was getting personal, it wasn't my intention.

But you seem incredibly intent on missing my point, so frankly I can't be fucked continuing this thread.

At least Jumper has the excuse of just not being that smart. The finesse with which you dance around my main point means you get it, you just don't want to engage on it (which is how you usually argue).
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby denise » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:27 am

nowonmai, it's getting somewhat rambly but basically she's telling us about her early life as a lowly seamstress and how she wanted to murder her mother and marry her father. i think it's a roughly edited exerpt from her new book...

"prelude to an autobiography - me apologize? you must be daft"

and ROB is throwing his self-proclaimed giant brain around, the usual.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby Wayne » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:15 am

(Confusion)

Mike? I thought you were in pursuit of that size 16 model in the UK?
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby flipflop » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:52 pm

Penta wrote:
Mikethehack wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, this is getting a bit personal.
Manners please. Queensbury rules.


You're quite right, Mike: I should apologise for swearing at flipflop and wish him a happy recovery from his Twelfth hangover.


Ah, the old passive/aggressive attack mode: a turgid "apology" in this thread, probably because of the magnitude of the cyber-kicking you're getting in it. Yet, simultaneously, a typical Penta-esque dig in another thread on the main board.

You've had this mauling coming for a long time, enjoy it while it lasts. Personal? you fucking bet it is, see it simply as cold, clinical hatred.

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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby Mikethehack » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:56 pm

Wayne wrote:(Confusion)

Mike? I thought you were in pursuit of that size 16 model in the UK?


I am, but seeing as I am your typical Irish polygamist, I plan on having Penta as Wife #1.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby Penta » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:49 pm

flipflop wrote:see it simply as cold, clinical hatred.


Nonsense. Visceral is what you do.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby flipflop » Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:27 am

Are you asking me out on a date? Sorry, I usually go for much younger women

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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby Penta » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:07 am

flipflop wrote:Are you asking me out on a date? Sorry, I usually go for much younger women


What a gift!

But I'll just say I hope the lovely Mrs flipflop doesn't read this.

Or perhaps, perish the thought, those younger women don't go for you? And she'd know about your braggadocio.
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Re: Penta-bashing

Postby flipflop » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:56 am

braggadocio


Didn't he play inside left for Inter Milan in 1962-63?

Mrs flop has nothing to worry about, I'd sooner put a dress on someone like coldharvest and give him some rampant man-love before I'd jump in the sack with a horrible creature like you

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