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Re: Greed

Postby gnaruki » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:53 am

Questions for Mr. Gecko: Is greed good?

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Re: Greed

Postby Mikethehack » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:12 pm

gnaruki wrote:Questions for Mr. Gecko: Is greed good?

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It is good, for the lack of a better word.
That word is hard-on.
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Re: Greed

Postby Wildrunner2011 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:16 am

Woodsman wrote:
Wildrunner2011 wrote:I think the word "Greed" best describes the state of mind we are in when we have made ourselves a "slave" to a want/desire.

Woodsman wrote:Is greed good or bad or what even does it mean to you?

I used Wikipedia and found an answer that seems incomplete.

What are your opinions about greed in general?

That is a very accurate statement, and I'd have to
Say about as good of a description as I have heard - many thanks wild runner!


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Re: Greed

Postby AztecDave » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:43 am

i thought happiness was good.
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Re: Greed

Postby Woodsman » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:06 am

AztecDave wrote:i thought happiness was good.


I think happiness is good.

I think greed is inherently bad.

The problem with greed is its definition.

If you consider greed as "the desire of excess wealth", then most definitely it is bad, but there are always exceptions.

A person who considers it "good" for one person to be driving around a million dollar car and another on the same planet to not be able to even obtain another meal to stave off hunger cannot possibly have their head screwed on straight.
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Re: Greed

Postby coldharvest » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:31 am

We live in groups so greed may not be bad but it's not good either.......just keep your hands off my shit.
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Re: Greed

Postby ktrout » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:58 am

Woodsman wrote:A person who considers it "good" for one person to be driving around a million dollar car and another on the same planet to not be able to even obtain another meal to stave off hunger cannot possibly have their head screwed on straight.

Except arbitrarily saying someone has too much shit and taking it away to give it to someone else is even worse. That's why Communist countries (and former ones) are such shitholes. Nobody gives a shit about anything because they don't have real property rights and they don't have the power to change it anyway. Then the greedy evil cutthroat bastards will still end up at the top of the Party and still be driving Mercedes while everyone else lives in their own crap.
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Re: Greed

Postby gnaruki » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:51 am

AYnDROID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TEH COMMIES TOOK MY SHIT CUZ TEH LEADERS WERE STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHY NO EDITOR LADY!?!!?!??! YOUR BOOKS COULD BE A PAMPHLET AND MAKE BETTER CENTS!!!!!!!!
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Re: Greed

Postby Dabbi » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:54 am

i think that it's funny that this thread is above jitw thread that is bitching about taxes when i see new posts here
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Re: Greed

Postby ktrout » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:42 pm

Besides, Mr. Pedantic here, what people are really lamenting is parasitism/predation.
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Re: Greed

Postby Woodsman » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:16 pm

Dabbi wrote:i think that it's funny that this thread is above jitw thread that is bitching about taxes when i see new posts here


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Re: Greed

Postby friendlyskies » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:35 pm

It kind of depends on who you are and the values in your social group. It's like asking, "Is the sex drive good?" Uh, it exists, which makes it neither good nor bad. It leads to children and happy marriages, as well as raping altar boys and shooting Ronald Reagan (and missing), so, well..... for instance.

If you're Christian, esp Catholic, greed is definitely a one-way ticket to an eternity being tortured in hell.

If you're a communist, greed is probably a one-way ticket to a lifetime being tortured in the gulag (or, a key position in the Communist Party, depending on how smart/lucky/social/etc you are).

If you're a smart, socially adept USAmerican with access to resources, education and infrastructure, greed will probably convince you to choose a high-paying career.

If you're not particularly smart, socially adept, or have access to resources and/or education, greed will more likely lead you to either a life of crime, or a life of frustration because you won't accumulate that much stuff.

If you're a woman trying to choose between true love and a wealthy older suitor, greed will probably lead to a lifetime of sexual frustration, bad plastic surgery, and coddling wrinkly old-man balls with your diamond-encrusted fingers while you try to get the Viagra flowing.

If you like food, greed will probably make you fat.

If you like alcohol, greed will probably make you an alcoholic, and maybe fat.

If you like clothes/cars/iPods/etc and aren't smart enough to get a good job but have managed to figure out how to apply for credit cards, greed will almost certainly make you broke.

etc etc etc etc

Anyway, I was raised Christian and, while I don't believe in the mythological underpinnings of the religion anymore, I am glad that some of the lessons stuck with me. For instance, the "greed is a one-way ticket to hell" thing, and "neither a borrower nor lender be," which is a similar sentiment in a rent-to-own world, have both benefited me. I'm no longer afraid of going to hell, at least not consciously, but I do imitate the Christians in that they don't use credit or take out loans. I mean yes, yes, I have credit cards and use them (I'm not a real Christian, obviously), especially for travel and emergencies, but not to buy iPods or whatever.

But maybe I should have been more greedy, who knows. Oh well, blah blah blah sorry.
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Re: Greed

Postby ktrout » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:09 am

The other side of the coin of greed is envy, which I think is almost universally destructive. To both the source and target of that emotion. Institutionalized it causes Communism.
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Re: Greed

Postby gnaruki » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:05 am

ktrout wrote:The other side of the coin of greed is envy, which I think is almost universally destructive. To both the source and target of that emotion. Institutionalized it causes Communism.


Envy is very destructive. Especially when it leads to: well if they have if and I don't then no one should have it.

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