What is the most dangerous place?

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby svizzerams » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:28 pm

I'm sorry to disappoint you FF, but my only involvement with this post was to move it from the main board when it showed up. Show me where you believe I have mis-moderated board and then please feel free to bring your concerns forward - otherwise your righteous indignation is manufactured out of thin air. Welcome back to Kabul. Stay safe.

Now I'll get back to doing what I do mostly as a moderator - fending off spammers.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby friendlyskies » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:17 am

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby friendlyskies » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:22 am

flipflop wrote:Well, well, well, what do we have here? Let's have a break down shall we?

First off, we have svizzerams - who initially wanted to be a female (of course) version of Arnold's killer cyborg from the future in "The Moderator: Judgement Day" all because of the deranged idiot from Birmingham. In fact she wanted to re-shape the whole place by turning into a virtual North Korea, with Penta as Kim Il in The Head. Both Kurt and RYP finally drew a line under it by saying that it was done, all over, she's a fucking slice of BFC history. End of chat.

And yet, here we are
Vagaries of the truth were propagated during this whole sorry affair - In my opinion, people should be held accountable for what they truly are responsible for - no more, no less. I'm all for truth and reconciliation


You have been served a cease and desist order from both God and Jesus (Pelton and Kurt), and yet you STILL continue to stooge for someone who has been told DEFINITELY, TOTALLY, and FINALLY, to FUCK OFF AND DON'T COME BACK. What part don't you understand? Again, you having moderator rights here is a joke, but the bigger joke is that there's not really anyone left to termin...sorry, moderate anymore. Nice try though, now that Pelton is hanging with the natives again out in Afreeka. When the cat's away and all that, and Kurt off side somewhere too. You little tinker you.

Then we have Pre-menstrualskies. What a fucking MESS this woman is LOL. I said all along she was another sistahood stooge, and she's as much as admitted it here. Hangs on Facebook with the fruitcake, you trying to tell us that Penta doesn't mention this place to you at least 40 times a day? Fuck off. Shriekyskies' real problem is she's wildly firing at anyone and everyone left here (Hi to the other 4 of you BTW). Blaming them for the place imploding, for being failures not like some junkie actor who high achieved by dying aged 48, a live lived to his full potential. LOL on bastard STEROIDS over that one. Everyone, including yours truly, is sad and jealous and doesn't have a life according to her. Perhaps she's butthurt she's finally realised the awful truth, men and women ARE different, and now she's fallen into the eternal trap of dropping a fucking sprog, and is stuck at home wiping up a toddler's piss and shit, while trying to mould the BFC - the place where adventurers, travellers, players and operators used to hang out and shoot shit - into her own drug addled version of MUMSNET. You couldn't make it up.

But, while she's telling me that I've a sad lonely life, on a board for people like me (but not just operators I hasten to add, but at least INTERESTING people), I've been in and out of all manner of DPs for the last ELEVEN YEARS, and I'm typing this bullshit from my MANAGER'S office in downtown Kabul, having just stopped all vehicle moves for our teams as the locals are having a demo in Shar e Now over 21 ANA who were killed by the ISI/Taliban in Kunar. Why have I done that? because it's too DANGEROUS for my people to be driving around amongst that shit, and there's a good chance it will go BOOM, boom, boom, shake the room in the middle of it all. Did anyone read about THAT on Mumsnet? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone? I might even reach for the 9mm in my drawer beside me and end it all right now, my life has been such a bore and a waste.

Up next is Bobby, who's simply trolling for the lulz. Good on him, I've missed his trolling, at least he has a funny side. He's still a cunt, but rather an interesting annoying cunt, than the bores left here. He also hangs with Penta on FB, so I think he's now a psychiatrist in training since losing his job at Taco Bell. Good luck with that one. Crack that case and you'll be the go to headshrinker on the whole Eastern Seaboard, a millionaire.

Finally we come to seektravelinfo. Who is her own woman, is worth more than any woman who's been on here, 'cept maybe Marie Angelique and Denise and possibly a few others I might have missed. I like her more everyday, because she doesn't toe the feminist line, and dishes it out to the laydees and the blokes with equal abandon. She SEES the bigger picture over Penta and FEELS the butthurt of the sisters, but only because she is a woman and understands their pain; but not on this one, uh uh, she opted out of that coven of potion stirrers long ago. I love you in a platonic, non-sexist, non-racist, multi-cultural, eco-friendly and sustainable, community based way old girl. Kudos.

And Hi Penta!! Yoo-Hooooo!! I can see you-ooo. You are, were, and will always be an utter and total cunt. Now, I'm back in England April time, so send Chief Inspector Juliet Bravo down to interview me for this joint-force investigation into online Americans, and your DEMAND that they to apologise to you because you're upset. I'm sure all the murder, rape, robbery, assault and fraud cases can wait until your honour is restored. Interpol have a file on it too I hear.

To quote Al Pacino, but in a Steven Van Zandt stylee a la Sopranos "Just when I thought I was out, they [BFC] pull me back in"

GOLD, pure GOLD, you complete set of bastards

Cheers, you've all made my day


Jesus Christ, if you aren't getting paid to destroy this place, you really are one insane sack of shit. The time and effort you've devoted to your retarded little "mission" is amazing. Your opinion of me is worth nothing, and as for mine of you, well, I don't care whether you live or die. Though it would be nice if you'd stop posting here, you psycho freak. So I could recommend this place to people who write things that are actually interesting and informative, rather than your boring, pointless naval-gazing streams of insults that do nothing but cause problems.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby flipflop » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:29 am

Take a valium vata loca, lie down, and dry your fucking eyes. As for wishing me dead, it's been tried by less privileged yet vastly more interesting people than you. And yet here I am. No cunt gets out of life alive anyway, so your eloquently put wish is illogical, proving you spend far too much time on Facebook with you know who.

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby Woodsman » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:06 am

Come on sell me some potassium nitrate buddy
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby nowonmai » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:04 am

Now that the war is over, I forgive you all your sins. The quality of mercy is twice blessed.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby flipflop » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:08 am

svizzerams wrote:I'm sorry to disappoint you FF, but my only involvement with this post was to move it from the main board when it showed up. Show me where you believe I have mis-moderated board and then please feel free to bring your concerns forward - otherwise your righteous indignation is manufactured out of thin air.


You could have deleted it. The owner of this board has said she is not to post here, she has just posted by proxy - it's her post. You're the moderator, you act on behalf of the owner of the board, do you not? You have mis-moderated, show me where you believe I am wrong - otherwise your righteous indignation has been pulled out of your fat arse.

Once more, you have a serious conflict of interest in your role on this board - you allow a banned poster, who has just posted on here that if she doesn't get her way she will commence litigious action against the board's owner and his chief moderator
Banned For Life Poster wrote:So, I’ve asked Bobby Sands to post this. And I hope Kurt and RYP at least have the decency to let it stand. Otherwise, as UN resolutions state, there could be serious consequences, which would be very tedious and expensive.


You not only allow the post to stand, but slyly move it to the RFWOH forum WITH it's ghost still hanging on the main board, where all can click and come here to read it, check the hits already, so it might as well have stayed there.

THEN you say
In my opinion, people should be held accountable for what they truly are responsible for - no more, no less. I'm all for truth and reconciliation
When there's no case to answer to, no truth and reconciliation to answer to, by order of your superiors here. This isn't a democracy, it also isn't your social engineering project. It's RYP's, and by extension Kurt's, and BOTH have stated she has nothing more to give or offer this place, not in any shape or form, just leave it alone. Then, you delete my post, a perfectly harmless picture of a sobbing child, yet I am granted full posting rights by the owner of this board, unlike your chum from Birmingham.

So, what's it gonna be hmmmmm?

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby friendlyskies » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:21 am

I don't wish you dead, you manipulative psychopath and lying sack of shit. I said I don't care if you live or die. And I don't. Your opinions are worthless and you are worthless, to me anyway. I want you to stop posting here, but you won't because you're a fucking loser who has to denigrate and destroy everything but still, for some reason, needs to be around that which he professes to despise.

Go ahead, twist what I say for your own stupid amusement, that's what manipulative psychopath sacks of shit do. I expect no less.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby flipflop » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:43 am

I'm not going anywhere sweetheart xx

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby seektravelinfo » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:29 pm

I'm weary of this trend of a mental-health analysis being applied to anyone who is deemed distasteful. Narcissist, psychopath, sociopath ....... these terms are bandied about often these days. It's bad form to insult someone with a clinical diagnosis from the DSM-4 and it's not fair to the mentally ill.

In my own defense, calling Penta cray-cray is okay, because I'm speaking generally. Besides, she may not be crazy at all; but she is malevolent, manipulative, shallow and vindictive ..... mere personality traits. It was not cool to let her post here by proxy but Bobby Sands is a glorious provocateur and he got it done. Way to go, Bobby. Svizzerams, you are a dear sweet woman but you got played.

Re: FlipFlop: Context. Consider that he is a soldier, a highly trained expert who does well in his craft. Isn't that something worthy of some respect, even begrudgingly? Certainly pragmatically. I think so. What the hell do people expect from him: Little Lord Fauntleroy? Do you really want him to switch it off and appear on the BFC only to spout Noam Chomsky? Please, no.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby svizzerams » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:54 pm

flipflop wrote:You not only allow the post to stand, but slyly move it to the RFWOH forum WITH it's ghost still hanging on the main board, where all can click and come here to read it, check the hits already, so it might as well have stayed there.
Cheers


Well, you got me there kind sir, I did try to remove the ghost, but apparently that is beyond my pay grade. But tell you what - I'll lock this post. In the meantime take it up with Bobby. I wasn't involved.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby Kurt » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:35 pm

Bobby Sands wrote:I would argue that sometimes the most dangerous place is your mind.

I will admit up front that I have been out of the loop on the goings-on at the BFC. So, to be honest, a lot of the below is news to me. I didn't even know a thesis was written about the BFC. I am a little hurt that I was not interviewed as a subject for a thesis about the BFC. I mean, I know am not that important... I am only a minor player in my own life story. I thought I had done a semi-decent job on the BFC of demonstrating that the human mind is, ultimately, the most dangerous place. But, alas, I suppose my project here, and my toils, were not appreciated by many. I do think my posts here were far more deserving of the thesis than the ramblings of guy who got crabs in a stained-sheet hotel in Borneo, but there is no accounting for art appreciation.

Anyway, on to the real meat and potatoes of why I am here again. Our mutual friend, Lady P, has asked me to convey her message as she feels she has not been heard.

I appeal to the power-that-be to allow her to be heard... since... she wants to be heard and it costs you nothing to allow her to have her say.

You allow a condemned man a last cigarette so he may say goodbye to this world with some dignity. Why can't Penta be Penta if not for only one last time?

So, here it be:

It turns out that Kurt was right on one thing: vlindsay really did report me to the police for harassment. What possible basis she can have had for that escapes me entirely, since as far as I can tell, the last time I had any direct contact with her personally, rather than in her BFCAdmin role, was when I wished her a happy Christmas in an email in December 2012. Perhaps she honestly believed I was the ‘physical’ enforcer of some harassment conspiracy, whatever that means, as Kurt suggests. But I doubt it. It looks more like a further attempt to intimidate and discredit me.

Anyway, after five months being unable to do anything about it, I finally got to speak to the police officer leading this investigation. And of course she realizes I’ve done nothing. No case to answer, obviously. She told me she’d ask Kurt to remove his recent defamatory statements about me and apologize (and I would expect RYP to do so too). She asked me to compile a list for her to send on to him, which I have done. (I spared her the rest of the libels over the previous two and a half years, including VL’s own.) That was nearly a month ago. I don’t know whether the delay is from her or from him, but I see no retraction, no apologies on the forum.

So, I’ve asked Bobby Sands to post this. And I hope Kurt and RYP at least have the decency to let it stand. Otherwise, as UN resolutions state, there could be serious consequences, which would be very tedious and expensive. Here’s the short list:

• I am not a stalker.
• I was never out for revenge on VL. I was trying to resolve this issue discreetly, trying to minimize the hurt to everyone involved, as Jaeger, Svizzerams and even Kurt himself would attest (that is, if Kurt had bothered to read my email on the subject rather than make threats).
• I did not compile a ‘sex dossier’ on VL nor distribute a fictitious (or factual) spreadsheet about her social calendar. I am not obsessed with other people’s sex lives.
• I did not accuse Kurt of trading sex for banning. I did not accuse him of making porn with VL.
• I did not instigate Fansy’s investigation into VL’s thesis. I did not conspire to get her into trouble with the university. I did not want her stripped of her doctorate.
• I did not claim to have written part of the thesis myself. I was underpaid for my work, but the university did not ‘disagree with payment due’, as far as I know.
• I did not approve or even see Jaeger’s ‘My story’ email before he sent it out.
• I am not evil, creepy, sick, twisted, foul, malicious or incredibly spiteful and I do not solicit information to hurt people. I'm not the one who carries out vendettas or character assassinations. (Oh, the irony!)
• I wasn’t banned because I harassed anyone. I wasn’t banned because I harmed anyone. I have never been given a credible reason for the ban. But I now have a good idea, and it wasn’t for anything I had done but rather for what I knew.

Kurt and RYP have written all these libels and more on the forum in the last 6 months. Others have echoed them, without requiring any evidence or checking with me if they were true.
Countless more lies have been written about me in the last 3 years and, since first Kurt then VL banned me in 2011, they have denied me the right of reply. Kurt, RYP and VL have all refused my polite requests to retract them and apologize for defaming me. Perhaps they will now. Because, thanks to VL's peculiar penchant for involving the police and Kurt's and RYP's support for that decision, the police too now know much of this.

I have been mightily pissed off. And sure as the hell they put me through at times, I’ve had to ‘harden the fuck up’. Good job, people.

Finally, a word for nowonmai, who was mostly on the right track all along. I didn't try to convince VL he was a spook. Quite the reverse. She said the 'information' came from her ex-husband, who, she claimed, knew him.

You mostly know where to contact me: Facebook or via PM on Polo's Bastards, where I am Penta2. Rebuilding of bridges welcome. Otherwise, enjoy your lives. It was good to know most of you.


She cracks me up. When I told people "uh...police are involved, better watch out" I was accused of all kinds of shit. I got e-mails saying that I was being used as a chump, assuring me no police were involved and suddenly now the messenger says with sadness "it turns out Kurt was right about one thing" One? Only one fucking thing? I am right about tons of shit.

When I say "careful about contacting the university about the thesis..that will get you noticed by the police" People doubt me still for some reason. Dunno why. Its because they suck is what I am guessing and people who suck are, in my opinion, in their predicament in the same manner than Libertarians think poor people are poor. They suck because they actively choose to suck.

Defame? I have not defamed Penta one bit. She defames herself. Her bit of revenge is going to be trying to sue me under the UK's libel laws for me saying that she accused me of being a pornographer when I did not deny it fast enough for her...even though I have the e-mails of her saying this.

Doubt me? Like you doubted when I said the police were involved? Stop choosing to suck.

And her and others goal is to remove V's doctorate via harassment with others as a proxy. I say this not to defame her but because it is true. Anyone who has seen what I have seen (and there are people here who have these too) will say "Yep, goddamn if they are not trying to get her doctorate taken away by making a timeline that speculates about her relationships and using that as a basis of information gathering" Anyone here get asked a question about what she me or whomever said at a certain time when they met us in real life?

Sure you did, that was part of it. You made the document too. This is simple forensics. It was last edited on Apple Software from 2007.
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If you want to believe I was only right about "one thing" go ahead. That's the dumb move but go ahead and believe that. What's the worst that can happen?

Oh yah, I love being sued too. I destroy people who sue me. I am the Cal Ripken of getting sued.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby Kurt » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:21 pm

Oh yah, Welcome back Bobby...seriously it is good to see you here.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby Kurt » Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:00 pm

I decided to unlock this because it was unfair of me to reply when no one else could.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby flipflop » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:23 am

Did you have to put her over your knee Kurt? She won't be riding that motorbike like Queen Boudicca for a while then, eh.

You do realise now you've freed it up there's a posh house in Birmingham, or maybe Spain, where the lights have been burning on all night, and the sound of twisted, gnarled old fingers furiously tapping a keyboard rings out in a tastefully decorated yet mournfully empty space; where the reek of expensive wine and stale cigarettes can be scented from the street below, by passing illegal immigrants on their way to the local mosque for early morning bomb making lessons? You do realise that?

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