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What is the most dangerous place?

Postby Bobby Sands » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:08 pm

I would argue that sometimes the most dangerous place is your mind.

I will admit up front that I have been out of the loop on the goings-on at the BFC. So, to be honest, a lot of the below is news to me. I didn't even know a thesis was written about the BFC. I am a little hurt that I was not interviewed as a subject for a thesis about the BFC. I mean, I know am not that important... I am only a minor player in my own life story. I thought I had done a semi-decent job on the BFC of demonstrating that the human mind is, ultimately, the most dangerous place. But, alas, I suppose my project here, and my toils, were not appreciated by many. I do think my posts here were far more deserving of the thesis than the ramblings of guy who got crabs in a stained-sheet hotel in Borneo, but there is no accounting for art appreciation.

Anyway, on to the real meat and potatoes of why I am here again. Our mutual friend, Lady P, has asked me to convey her message as she feels she has not been heard.

I appeal to the power-that-be to allow her to be heard... since... she wants to be heard and it costs you nothing to allow her to have her say.

You allow a condemned man a last cigarette so he may say goodbye to this world with some dignity. Why can't Penta be Penta if not for only one last time?

So, here it be:

It turns out that Kurt was right on one thing: vlindsay really did report me to the police for harassment. What possible basis she can have had for that escapes me entirely, since as far as I can tell, the last time I had any direct contact with her personally, rather than in her BFCAdmin role, was when I wished her a happy Christmas in an email in December 2012. Perhaps she honestly believed I was the ‘physical’ enforcer of some harassment conspiracy, whatever that means, as Kurt suggests. But I doubt it. It looks more like a further attempt to intimidate and discredit me.

Anyway, after five months being unable to do anything about it, I finally got to speak to the police officer leading this investigation. And of course she realizes I’ve done nothing. No case to answer, obviously. She told me she’d ask Kurt to remove his recent defamatory statements about me and apologize (and I would expect RYP to do so too). She asked me to compile a list for her to send on to him, which I have done. (I spared her the rest of the libels over the previous two and a half years, including VL’s own.) That was nearly a month ago. I don’t know whether the delay is from her or from him, but I see no retraction, no apologies on the forum.

So, I’ve asked Bobby Sands to post this. And I hope Kurt and RYP at least have the decency to let it stand. Otherwise, as UN resolutions state, there could be serious consequences, which would be very tedious and expensive. Here’s the short list:

• I am not a stalker.
• I was never out for revenge on VL. I was trying to resolve this issue discreetly, trying to minimize the hurt to everyone involved, as Jaeger, Svizzerams and even Kurt himself would attest (that is, if Kurt had bothered to read my email on the subject rather than make threats).
• I did not compile a ‘sex dossier’ on VL nor distribute a fictitious (or factual) spreadsheet about her social calendar. I am not obsessed with other people’s sex lives.
• I did not accuse Kurt of trading sex for banning. I did not accuse him of making porn with VL.
• I did not instigate Fansy’s investigation into VL’s thesis. I did not conspire to get her into trouble with the university. I did not want her stripped of her doctorate.
• I did not claim to have written part of the thesis myself. I was underpaid for my work, but the university did not ‘disagree with payment due’, as far as I know.
• I did not approve or even see Jaeger’s ‘My story’ email before he sent it out.
• I am not evil, creepy, sick, twisted, foul, malicious or incredibly spiteful and I do not solicit information to hurt people. I'm not the one who carries out vendettas or character assassinations. (Oh, the irony!)
• I wasn’t banned because I harassed anyone. I wasn’t banned because I harmed anyone. I have never been given a credible reason for the ban. But I now have a good idea, and it wasn’t for anything I had done but rather for what I knew.

Kurt and RYP have written all these libels and more on the forum in the last 6 months. Others have echoed them, without requiring any evidence or checking with me if they were true.
Countless more lies have been written about me in the last 3 years and, since first Kurt then VL banned me in 2011, they have denied me the right of reply. Kurt, RYP and VL have all refused my polite requests to retract them and apologize for defaming me. Perhaps they will now. Because, thanks to VL's peculiar penchant for involving the police and Kurt's and RYP's support for that decision, the police too now know much of this.

I have been mightily pissed off. And sure as the hell they put me through at times, I’ve had to ‘harden the fuck up’. Good job, people.

Finally, a word for nowonmai, who was mostly on the right track all along. I didn't try to convince VL he was a spook. Quite the reverse. She said the 'information' came from her ex-husband, who, she claimed, knew him.

You mostly know where to contact me: Facebook or via PM on Polo's Bastards, where I am Penta2. Rebuilding of bridges welcome. Otherwise, enjoy your lives. It was good to know most of you.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby nowonmai » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:22 am

Bobby Sands wrote:I would argue that sometimes the most dangerous place is your mind.

I will admit up front that I have been out of the loop on the goings-on at the BFC. So, to be honest, a lot of the below is news to me. I didn't even know a thesis was written about the BFC. I am a little hurt that I was not interviewed as a subject for a thesis about the BFC. I mean, I know am not that important... I am only a minor player in my own life story. I thought I had done a semi-decent job on the BFC of demonstrating that the human mind is, ultimately, the most dangerous place. But, alas, I suppose my project here, and my toils, were not appreciated by many. I do think my posts here were far more deserving of the thesis than the ramblings of guy who got crabs in a stained-sheet hotel in Borneo, but there is no accounting for art appreciation.

Anyway, on to the real meat and potatoes of why I am here again. Our mutual friend, Lady P, has asked me to convey her message as she feels she has not been heard.

I appeal to the power-that-be to allow her to be heard... since... she wants to be heard and it costs you nothing to allow her to have her say.

You allow a condemned man a last cigarette so he may say goodbye to this world with some dignity. Why can't Penta be Penta if not for only one last time?

So, here it be:

It turns out that Kurt was right on one thing: vlindsay really did report me to the police for harassment. What possible basis she can have had for that escapes me entirely, since as far as I can tell, the last time I had any direct contact with her personally, rather than in her BFCAdmin role, was when I wished her a happy Christmas in an email in December 2012. Perhaps she honestly believed I was the ‘physical’ enforcer of some harassment conspiracy, whatever that means, as Kurt suggests. But I doubt it. It looks more like a further attempt to intimidate and discredit me.

Anyway, after five months being unable to do anything about it, I finally got to speak to the police officer leading this investigation. And of course she realizes I’ve done nothing. No case to answer, obviously. She told me she’d ask Kurt to remove his recent defamatory statements about me and apologize (and I would expect RYP to do so too). She asked me to compile a list for her to send on to him, which I have done. (I spared her the rest of the libels over the previous two and a half years, including VL’s own.) That was nearly a month ago. I don’t know whether the delay is from her or from him, but I see no retraction, no apologies on the forum.

So, I’ve asked Bobby Sands to post this. And I hope Kurt and RYP at least have the decency to let it stand. Otherwise, as UN resolutions state, there could be serious consequences, which would be very tedious and expensive. Here’s the short list:

• I am not a stalker.
• I was never out for revenge on VL. I was trying to resolve this issue discreetly, trying to minimize the hurt to everyone involved, as Jaeger, Svizzerams and even Kurt himself would attest (that is, if Kurt had bothered to read my email on the subject rather than make threats).
• I did not compile a ‘sex dossier’ on VL nor distribute a fictitious (or factual) spreadsheet about her social calendar. I am not obsessed with other people’s sex lives.
• I did not accuse Kurt of trading sex for banning. I did not accuse him of making porn with VL.
• I did not instigate Fansy’s investigation into VL’s thesis. I did not conspire to get her into trouble with the university. I did not want her stripped of her doctorate.
• I did not claim to have written part of the thesis myself. I was underpaid for my work, but the university did not ‘disagree with payment due’, as far as I know.
• I did not approve or even see Jaeger’s ‘My story’ email before he sent it out.
• I am not evil, creepy, sick, twisted, foul, malicious or incredibly spiteful and I do not solicit information to hurt people. I'm not the one who carries out vendettas or character assassinations. (Oh, the irony!)
• I wasn’t banned because I harassed anyone. I wasn’t banned because I harmed anyone. I have never been given a credible reason for the ban. But I now have a good idea, and it wasn’t for anything I had done but rather for what I knew.

Kurt and RYP have written all these libels and more on the forum in the last 6 months. Others have echoed them, without requiring any evidence or checking with me if they were true.
Countless more lies have been written about me in the last 3 years and, since first Kurt then VL banned me in 2011, they have denied me the right of reply. Kurt, RYP and VL have all refused my polite requests to retract them and apologize for defaming me. Perhaps they will now. Because, thanks to VL's peculiar penchant for involving the police and Kurt's and RYP's support for that decision, the police too now know much of this.

I have been mightily pissed off. And sure as the hell they put me through at times, I’ve had to ‘harden the fuck up’. Good job, people.

Finally, a word for nowonmai, who was mostly on the right track all along. I didn't try to convince VL he was a spook. Quite the reverse. She said the 'information' came from her ex-husband, who, she claimed, knew him.

You mostly know where to contact me: Facebook or via PM on Polo's Bastards, where I am Penta2. Rebuilding of bridges welcome. Otherwise, enjoy your lives. It was good to know most of you.


Bobby Sands. As I live and breathe. And Penta, through Bobby. What an absolute pleasure. Unfortunately you are too late. This is like the alien ship from Prometheus: the occupants have long since passed on and only echoes remain. Revenants who can be stirred into set routines with the right sequence of action but our programming code has huge holes in it. Our character role is provide a link between past and present so that the next plot line makes sense. Only in this case I'm not sure there is another plot line.

Maybe some sort of truth and reconciliation council could heal the wound and let us go back to impolitely but ultimately impersonally and harmlessly slating each other but I doubt it. Pelton has deployed his surge and it feels pretty last act; most other folks have found better things to do after being Gerald Ratner'ed by him (ie. chaturbate in Mikethehack's case (MMF show every night at 2000EST), fansy is a poker demon and friendlyskies remains in denial of how much she fancies me, so much so she has entered into a sham marriage Prince Charles style.

As for vlindsay, I didn't even know the old boiler had an ex-husband and if she did I sure as shit don't know him, or I'd have got her number off him to see if she was game for a laugh. I didn't even get the chance to get to the pillow talk stage and quite frankly I feel discriminated against for that, although then she may have discovered I was a plumber from East Ham which would have been a bit embarassing.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby MJK » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:30 am

Glad someone finally posted your bail, Mr. Sands.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby flipflop » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:36 am

I'm speechless

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby seektravelinfo » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:18 pm

Bobby Sands wrote:Anyway, after five months being unable to do anything about it, I finally got to speak to the police officer leading this investigation. And of course she realizes I’ve done nothing. No case to answer, obviously. She told me she’d ask Kurt to remove his recent defamatory statements about me and apologize (and I would expect RYP to do so too). She asked me to compile a list for her to send on to him, which I have done. (I spared her the rest of the libels over the previous two and a half years, including VL’s own.) That was nearly a month ago. I don’t know whether the delay is from her or from him, but I see no retraction, no apologies on the forum.


Wow. I feel kind of badly for that lady cop in England, there is no end in sight for her. "No case to answer, obviously" (per Penta) yet she is expected (by Penta) to contact these Americans, once she receives Penta's List, and extract apologies. That's hilarious. I love British humour.

Obsessive Penta is too a stalker, now she's pestering this police officer and being a massive nuisance on the I'm sure stretched resources of Law Enforcement over there. Thatz not cool.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby friendlyskies » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:33 pm

Man, Bobby Sands, you had me click through for THIS? Anyway, I'm just glad Penta's still my friend on Facebook, because she's got all kinds of inside scoop on the situation in Venezuela, even if she gives Mr. Maduro more credit than anyone else. Still, she's awesome and interesting so whatever.

nowonmai wrote:Unfortunately you are too late. This is like the alien ship from Prometheus: the occupants have long since passed on and only echoes remain. Revenants who can be stirred into set routines with the right sequence of action but our programming code has huge holes in it.


Just a guess, but I imagine the bitterest irony of your annoying little victory dance is that you're probably more socially isolated in real life than the rest of us. Which means you probably miss the camaraderie of ye olde BFC, which you've done so much to destroy, more than most. Oh well. As Tolstoy said, you are not punished for your sins, but by your sins.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby svizzerams » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:02 pm

seektravelinfo wrote:
Bobby Sands wrote:Anyway, after five months being unable to do anything about it, I finally got to speak to the police officer leading this investigation. And of course she realizes I’ve done nothing. No case to answer, obviously. She told me she’d ask Kurt to remove his recent defamatory statements about me and apologize (and I would expect RYP to do so too). She asked me to compile a list for her to send on to him, which I have done. (I spared her the rest of the libels over the previous two and a half years, including VL’s own.) That was nearly a month ago. I don’t know whether the delay is from her or from him, but I see no retraction, no apologies on the forum.


Wow. I feel kind of badly for that lady cop in England, there is no end in sight for her. "No case to answer, obviously" (per Penta) yet she is expected (by Penta) to contact these Americans, once she receives Penta's List, and extract apologies. That's hilarious. I love British humour.

Obsessive Penta is too a stalker, now she's pestering this police officer and being a massive nuisance on the I'm sure stretched resources of Law Enforcement over there. Thatz not cool.


In all fairness Seeks, P. did not instigate the police investigation and stating she is "pestering and being a massive nuisance" is conjecture which only serves to cloud issues rather than serve clarity. It appears P. was asked by the investigating officer to provide information. Isn't it the job of the police to ask questions, gather information and attempt to solve problems? Vagaries of the truth were propagated during this whole sorry affair - In my opinion, people should be held accountable for what they truly are responsible for - no more, no less. I'm all for truth and reconciliation, I nominate Mr. N to be the High Commissioner of the BFC TRC. The main character in this game of manipulation and machination appears to have self-exiled, but the damage done continues to reverberate in her wake.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby seektravelinfo » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:36 pm

svizzerams wrote:
In all fairness Seeks, P. did not instigate the police investigation and stating she is "pestering and being a massive nuisance" is conjecture which only serves to cloud issues rather than serve clarity. It appears P. was asked by the investigating officer to provide information. Isn't it the job of the police to ask questions, gather information and attempt to solve problems? Vagaries of the truth were propagated during this whole sorry affair - In my opinion, people should be held accountable for what they truly are responsible for - no more, no less. I'm all for truth and reconciliation, I nominate Mr. N to be the High Commissioner of the BFC TRC. The main character in this game of manipulation and machination appears to have self-exiled, but the damage done continues to reverberate in her wake.



Not conjecture. Her behaviors demonstrated on this board that her brand of cray-cray was not going to settle down. She was, and continues to be as indicated by Bobby Sands post (which wouldn't surprise me if it were a hoax) intrusive, vindictive, presumptive and obsessed. I considered her numerous email pleas to me, until I blocked her on Facebook, to be pestering and a massive nuisance, and I"m not the only one.

As far as Vlindsay goes; she has the integrity of a grifter, made "honest" by whatever vo-tech college in England awarded her a Ph.D, while everything about her stinks to high heaven. She and Penta both are a couple of sick-ass drama queens. Enough.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby Bobby Sands » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:45 pm

I am just pissed off that a whole bunch of people used the BFC to get laid, and the only satisfaction I got was the opportunity flame Tarkan, Flipflop, Nowhammy, and that pro-union shill guy.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby Bobby Sands » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:00 pm

seektravelinfo wrote:She was, and continues to be as indicated by Bobby Sands post (which wouldn't surprise me if it were a hoax) intrusive, vindictive, presumptive and obsessed.


Well, I love a great hoax, but that is a direct copy n' paste of Penta's note.

And, honestly, I have not been following the BFC, so I missed all this drama. I pretty much left around the time of the "C. U. Next Tuesday" and the subsequent banning of Penta for whatever her crimes were supposed to be back then. I didn't leave in solidarity with Penta, I just stopped having fun, so I moved on to other parts of my life (plus, the assistant mgr at my Taco Bell got fired or left, and I will pulling a lot of extra shifts at the time).

I was always a proponent of the anarchic BFC, but you folks wanted more control, more reality, more personal connections. And as this rag-tag assortment of people, more damaged than the typical cast of MTV's Real World, started to visit each other, hang out together, and sleep with each other, you knew it was going to end up like a Real World season... with the surfer dude getting AIDS from eating the HIV+ gay guy's peanut butter with his fingers:

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby Bobby Sands » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:14 pm

nowonmai wrote:Bobby Sands. As I live and breathe. And Penta, through Bobby. What an absolute pleasure. Unfortunately you are too late. This is like the alien ship from Prometheus: the occupants have long since passed on and only echoes remain. Revenants who can be stirred into set routines with the right sequence of action but our programming code has huge holes in it. Our character role is provide a link between past and present so that the next plot line makes sense. Only in this case I'm not sure there is another plot line.


Nowhammy, you lost me at the Prometheus analogy. Sounds a little to high-brow for me to understand. If you can, would you tell me what character applies from the Sabotage video?



I like to think I would be the Sir Stewart Wallace character, but I kinda recognize I would probably be more like the Fred Kelly/Bunny character.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby nowonmai » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:50 pm

friendlyskies wrote:Man, Bobby Sands, you had me click through for THIS? Anyway, I'm just glad Penta's still my friend on Facebook, because she's got all kinds of inside scoop on the situation in Venezuela, even if she gives Mr. Maduro more credit than anyone else. Still, she's awesome and interesting so whatever.

nowonmai wrote:Unfortunately you are too late. This is like the alien ship from Prometheus: the occupants have long since passed on and only echoes remain. Revenants who can be stirred into set routines with the right sequence of action but our programming code has huge holes in it.


Just a guess, but I imagine the bitterest irony of your annoying little victory dance is that you're probably more socially isolated in real life than the rest of us. Which means you probably miss the camaraderie of ye olde BFC, which you've done so much to destroy, more than most. Oh well. As Tolstoy said, you are not punished for your sins, but by your sins.


You give me way too much credit darlin' but you're right I'm a terrible sinner and a mere shell of a man since this place bit the big one. Come and save me from myself, o lawdy.

Booby Sands wrote:I was always a proponent of the anarchic BFC, but you folks wanted more control, more reality, more personal connections. And as this rag-tag assortment of people, more damaged than the typical cast of MTV's Real World, started to visit each other, hang out together, and sleep with each other, you knew it was going to end up like a Real World season... with the surfer dude getting AIDS from eating the HIV+ gay guy's peanut butter with his fingers:


Word.

Bobby Sands wrote:I am just pissed off that a whole bunch of people used the BFC to get laid, and the only satisfaction I got was the opportunity flame Tarkan, Flipflop, Nowhammy, and that pro-union shill guy.


Brother I hear you.

Bobby Sands wrote:Nowhammy, you lost me at the Prometheus analogy. Sounds a little to high-brow for me to understand. If you can, would you tell me what character applies from the Sabotage video?



I like to think I would be the Sir Stewart Wallace character, but I kinda recognize I would probably be more like the Fred Kelly/Bunny character.


You lost me with the Beastie Boys, just looked like a bunch of schoolboys with stick on 'taches running around aimlessly. In an act of synchronicity I posted your character yesterday on a separate thread, Gale from Breaking Bad. Well meaning but doomed.

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby flipflop » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:29 am

Well, well, well, what do we have here? Let's have a break down shall we?

First off, we have svizzerams - who initially wanted to be a female (of course) version of Arnold's killer cyborg from the future in "The Moderator: Judgement Day" all because of the deranged idiot from Birmingham. In fact she wanted to re-shape the whole place by turning into a virtual North Korea, with Penta as Kim Il in The Head. Both Kurt and RYP finally drew a line under it by saying that it was done, all over, she's a fucking slice of BFC history. End of chat.

And yet, here we are
Vagaries of the truth were propagated during this whole sorry affair - In my opinion, people should be held accountable for what they truly are responsible for - no more, no less. I'm all for truth and reconciliation


You have been served a cease and desist order from both God and Jesus (Pelton and Kurt), and yet you STILL continue to stooge for someone who has been told DEFINITELY, TOTALLY, and FINALLY, to FUCK OFF AND DON'T COME BACK. What part don't you understand? Again, you having moderator rights here is a joke, but the bigger joke is that there's not really anyone left to termin...sorry, moderate anymore. Nice try though, now that Pelton is hanging with the natives again out in Afreeka. When the cat's away and all that, and Kurt off side somewhere too. You little tinker you.

Then we have Pre-menstrualskies. What a fucking MESS this woman is LOL. I said all along she was another sistahood stooge, and she's as much as admitted it here. Hangs on Facebook with the fruitcake, you trying to tell us that Penta doesn't mention this place to you at least 40 times a day? Fuck off. Shriekyskies' real problem is she's wildly firing at anyone and everyone left here (Hi to the other 4 of you BTW). Blaming them for the place imploding, for being failures not like some junkie actor who high achieved by dying aged 48, a live lived to his full potential. LOL on bastard STEROIDS over that one. Everyone, including yours truly, is sad and jealous and doesn't have a life according to her. Perhaps she's butthurt she's finally realised the awful truth, men and women ARE different, and now she's fallen into the eternal trap of dropping a fucking sprog, and is stuck at home wiping up a toddler's piss and shit, while trying to mould the BFC - the place where adventurers, travellers, players and operators used to hang out and shoot shit - into her own drug addled version of MUMSNET. You couldn't make it up.

But, while she's telling me that I've a sad lonely life, on a board for people like me (but not just operators I hasten to add, but at least INTERESTING people), I've been in and out of all manner of DPs for the last ELEVEN YEARS, and I'm typing this bullshit from my MANAGER'S office in downtown Kabul, having just stopped all vehicle moves for our teams as the locals are having a demo in Shar e Now over 21 ANA who were killed by the ISI/Taliban in Kunar. Why have I done that? because it's too DANGEROUS for my people to be driving around amongst that shit, and there's a good chance it will go BOOM, boom, boom, shake the room in the middle of it all. Did anyone read about THAT on Mumsnet? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone? I might even reach for the 9mm in my drawer beside me and end it all right now, my life has been such a bore and a waste.

Up next is Bobby, who's simply trolling for the lulz. Good on him, I've missed his trolling, at least he has a funny side. He's still a cunt, but rather an interesting annoying cunt, than the bores left here. He also hangs with Penta on FB, so I think he's now a psychiatrist in training since losing his job at Taco Bell. Good luck with that one. Crack that case and you'll be the go to headshrinker on the whole Eastern Seaboard, a millionaire.

Finally we come to seektravelinfo. Who is her own woman, is worth more than any woman who's been on here, 'cept maybe Marie Angelique and Denise and possibly a few others I might have missed. I like her more everyday, because she doesn't toe the feminist line, and dishes it out to the laydees and the blokes with equal abandon. She SEES the bigger picture over Penta and FEELS the butthurt of the sisters, but only because she is a woman and understands their pain; but not on this one, uh uh, she opted out of that coven of potion stirrers long ago. I love you in a platonic, non-sexist, non-racist, multi-cultural, eco-friendly and sustainable, community based way old girl. Kudos.

And Hi Penta!! Yoo-Hooooo!! I can see you-ooo. You are, were, and will always be an utter and total cunt. Now, I'm back in England April time, so send Chief Inspector Juliet Bravo down to interview me for this joint-force investigation into online Americans, and your DEMAND that they to apologise to you because you're upset. I'm sure all the murder, rape, robbery, assault and fraud cases can wait until your honour is restored. Interpol have a file on it too I hear.

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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby michelle in alaska » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:43 am

God.
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Re: What is the most dangerous place?

Postby seektravelinfo » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:11 pm

flipflop wrote:
Finally we come to seektravelinfo. Who is her own woman, is worth more than any woman who's been on here, 'cept maybe Marie Angelique and Denise and possibly a few others I might have missed. I like her more everyday, because she doesn't toe the feminist line, and dishes it out to the laydees and the blokes with equal abandon. She SEES the bigger picture over Penta and FEELS the butthurt of the sisters, but only because she is a woman and understands their pain; but not on this one, uh uh, she opted out of that coven of potion stirrers long ago. I love you in a platonic, non-sexist, non-racist, multi-cultural, eco-friendly and sustainable, community based way old girl. Kudos.


Thanks, Flipflop. I love you more, in all of the ways that you cite. Let's get something straight though, I am an unabashed feminist, a flag-waving women's libber though not a bra-burning one, as there is not much that's more perfect or self-actualizing as a well-fitted and pretty bra, why, it can change your life.

To quote one of the poems of one of my husband's (the current one that's a poet) "Humanity is a filthy beast". I include women in that category. My gender doesn't get a pass. I have good women friends and family in my life and I hold them close because they are as good as gold. Conversely, in my lifetime the most hateful insidious undermining has been at the hands of women, notably women who identified as feminist no less, and it mattered because it hit me where it hurt the most, my pocketbook, while I was working and raising my child while standing on my own two feet and nobody elses.

So, as you can imagine, whenever Penta would give me the feminist lecture and expect my support because I am a woman it didn't sit well with me, because her feminism is phony, merely a shrill talking point to bludgeon with while she polishes the silver as Mr. Penta locks himself in the wine cellar to escape her tedium and vindictive craziness.

Friendlyskies is another story. She was able to enjoy a full life of adventure (that's what she says) BECAUSE of women who have paved the way for her (and possibly a trust fund, doesn't hurt) and she fails to possess the good grace to give propers to the women that made her exciting life a little more possible and a little less dangerous. Then, she lectures the world about feminism, her knowledge gained from Women Studies 101. So what does she do when her dough runs out? Why, she finds a man of an acceptable socio-economic status and gets inpregnated (girl, didn't you know that birth control is legal), compelling him to marry her and set her up in a nice house with all the perks. Way to go.

Vlindsay, she's just a skanky whore and she played y'all big time. Chumps.

In closing, I'll just credit my mother with the way I am. She taught me: 1. you've got to be tough 2. Learn how to type. 3. You've got to be tough. 4. Have good manners and speak the Queen's English. 5. You've got to be tough. 6. Know how to type. 7. Never forget where you came from 8. You've got to be tough. 9. Stay away from men who are cowards, they are weak and dangerous. 10. You've got to be tough. 11. Don't smoke while walking down the street, it looks trashy. 12. Be strategic with your compromise. 13. Enjoy men, some of them are magnificent creatures while the others have no idea how unnecessary they are; know the difference. 14. To hell with male privilege.
"I wish the women would hurry up and take over." (Leonard Cohen)
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