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Postby flipflop » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:05 pm

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Immortality may only be a gene-tweak away.

The current average lifespan of a human is around 80 years. The oldest person lived to be 122 years, while an Israeli Arab woman is claiming to be 120. And many gerontologists believe that 125 years is the maximum. But if researchers in California are right, they can possibly extend human life to 1000 YEARS.

From The Independent (UK), Science section:

A genetically engineered organism that lives 10 times longer than normal has been created by scientists in California. It is the greatest extension of longevity yet achieved by researchers investigating the scientific nature of ageing.

If this work could ever be translated into humans, it would mean that we might one day see people living for 800 years. But is this ever going to be a realistic possibility?

Valter Longo is one of the small but influential group of specialists in this area who believes that an 800-year life isn’t just possible, it is inevitable. It was his work at the University of Southern California that led to the creation of a strain of yeast fungus that can live for 10 weeks or more, instead of dying at its usual maximum age of just one week.

By deleting two genes within the yeast’s genome and putting it on a calorie-restricted diet, Longo was able to extend tenfold the lifespan of the same common yeast cells used by bakers and brewers. The study is published later this week in the journal Public Library of Science Genetics.

One thousand years of life? The idea of centuries-to-an-eon life span in humans may sound wrong to those who study aging, but even aging occurs at different rates in different people, which would explain why some live over one hundred years while others die early (for reasons other than suicide or murder, of course). Longo believes that this is the result of genetic programming:

“Basically, it is the first demonstration, to our knowledge, that ageing is programmed and altruistic,” Longo says. “The organisms we have studied die long before they have to in order to provide nutrients for ‘mutants’ generated within their own population. Thus, billions of organisms die early so that a few better-adapted individuals can grow.”

This raises the possibility that the same process happens in humans, and that, as a result, many people are dying earlier than they need to. “Programmed human ageing is just a possibility. We don’t know whether it’s true yet or not. But if ageing is programmed in yeast, and the [metabolic] pathway is very similar, then isn’t it possible that humans also die earlier than they have to?”

While yeast is a far cry from humans, it is the first step to extending human life as the methods used can be adapted and refined to extend the life of other increasingly complex organisms. By that time, they may know enough about aging to slow the process down to extend life even further, and other advances in stem cells and bionics may allow one to replace their aged, obsolete bodies completely.
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Postby Wayne » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:48 pm

Well, you may LIVE a good long time...but don't you want to be sentient for most of it?

We're talking quality of life, here.
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Postby coldharvest » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:50 pm

Wayne wrote:Well, you may LIVE a good long time...but don't you want to be sentient for most of it?

...I'm barely sentient now.
I know the law. And I have spent my entire life in its flagrant disregard.
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Postby nowonmai » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:57 pm

The murder rate would go through the roof. The only thing that keeps half of us sane is the thought that many of the people that really fuck us off will be pushing up daisies before all that much longer.
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Postby docwatson » Fri May 09, 2008 2:12 pm

This is straight out of the Bible - vegetarians living 800 year lifespans. What's old is new again!
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Postby flipflop » Fri May 09, 2008 8:49 pm

I'll take my chances with red meat - rare and bloody, taste the kill homies

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Postby Aryan » Fri May 09, 2008 9:54 pm

docwatson wrote:This is straight out of the Bible - vegetarians living 800 year lifespans. What's old is new again!
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Yea...but this time its for real and not being made up.
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Postby OneLungMcClung » Fri May 09, 2008 11:19 pm

Aryan wrote:
docwatson wrote:This is straight out of the Bible - vegetarians living 800 year lifespans. What's old is new again!
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Yea...but this time its for real and not being made up.


Word.


And what Nowonmai said, too.

Can you imagine 15 billion people standing in their own shit clamoring for state-paid immortality?


Another question is this: will they truly be able to extend the life span of the brain? The body doesn't surprise me, but considering that you start going around the bend in your late 90s at best, do you really want 900 years of being a doddering senile fool?
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Postby SRR » Fri May 09, 2008 11:57 pm

This will help space travel immensely. None of that biodome breeding crap, just give me a self-contained ship, a brewery, a distillery, and solitaire on Windows 3.1 and I'll colonize the fucking galaxy for you.
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Postby Sri Lanky » Sun May 11, 2008 3:08 pm

Who would want to spend that much time on this planet?

There's got to be something better than this shit.
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Postby michelle in alaska » Wed May 14, 2008 8:55 am

Who would want to spend that much time on this planet?

There's got to be something better than this shit.


i am so with you on this one.
i plan on maybe 25 years more. i am here only under duress.
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