The first human ESS?

[Sri Lanky]

When,in your view,did lying become an evolutionary stable strategy?

[coldharvest]

When,in your view,did lying become an evolutionary stable strategy?

In the African savannah days

[Sri Lanky]

It was always about the booty in Djibouti.

[nowonmai]

The first time Mrs Caveman said, "Does my bum look big in this?"

[friendlyskies]

Animals fake each other out all the time, for instance, birds who will feign a broken wing to lure predators away from her nest, or possums playing dead. Poisonous insects are often mimicked by non-poisonous ones, such as the false monarch butterfly. So I assume lying predates humanity by a few billion years; we are the innocent victims of Eden's much more ancient mendacity.

[Q]

Animals fake each other out all the time, for instance, birds who will feign a broken wing to lure predators away from her nest, or possums playing dead. Poisonous insects are often mimicked by non-poisonous ones, such as the false monarch butterfly. So I assume lying predates humanity by a few billion years; we are the innocent victims of Eden's much more ancient mendacity.

Lying and deception are not different?

[Sri Lanky]

What's beyond deception?

[Sri Lanky]

Only more deception,silly.

[Caliban]

When,in your view,did lying become an evolutionary stable strategy?

In the African savannah days

I agree,fits in with story telling around cook fires and interpretation in art/cave painting. Development of thought processes.

Het get the big brain on Ug

[Sri Lanky]

The moment the memes worked in conjunction with the genes.