The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby Woodsman » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:20 am

20,000 barrels recently leaked into the Kalamazoo river in Michigan and it didn't even make the major news yet.

I would say it's a blatant conspiracy.

I used to trout fish in the headwaters of that river. It flows into Lake Michigan, which will dilute the hell out of it - it will just become another measurable pollutant of the lake now. If this keeps up, we are going to turn a natural paradise into something as inhospitable as Mars.

Something must be done.


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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby Woodsman » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:31 am

Just so it's clear - I'm not trying to push this little mini spill over the "missing" oil that cannot be found in the gulf - It's just that this local spill here close to home is making (will make) a lot of new people aware and possibly even concerned about the environmental damage caused by botched petroleum operations...people who gave the "pooh pooh" to the Gulf spill for whatever reasons - mostly because it's NIMBY...

Ever since that sludge dam broke in your old stomping grounds friendly...

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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby coldharvest » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:34 am

Woodsman wrote:20,000 barrels recently leaked into the Kalamazoo river in Michigan and it didn't even make the major news yet.

I would say it's a blatant conspiracy.

I used to trout fish in the headwaters of that river. It flows into Lake Michigan, which will dilute the hell out of it - it will just become another measurable pollutant of the lake now. If this keeps up, we are going to turn a natural paradise into something as inhospitable as Mars.

Something must be done.


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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby friendlyskies » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:09 pm

Gulf spill sickness wrecking lives
Nearly a year after the oil disaster began, Gulf Coast residents are sick, and dying from BP's toxic chemicals.
Dahr Jamail Last Modified: 09 Mar 2011 15:42 GMT

"I have critically high levels of chemicals in my body," 33-year-old Steven Aguinaga of Hazlehurst, Mississippi told Al Jazeera. "Yesterday I went to see another doctor to get my blood test results and the nurse said she didn't know how I even got there."

Aguinaga and his close friend Merrick Vallian went swimming at Fort Walton Beach, Florida, in July 2010.

"I swam underwater, then found I had orange slick stuff all over me," Aguinaga said. "At that time I had no knowledge of what dispersants were, but within a few hours, we were drained of energy and not feeling good. I've been extremely sick ever since."

BP's oil disaster last summer gushed at least 4.9 million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico, causing the largest accidental marine oil spill in history - and the largest environmental disaster in US history. Compounding the problem, BP has admitted to using at least 1.9 million gallons toxic dispersants, including one chemical that has been banned in the UK.

According to chemist Bob Naman, these chemicals create an even more toxic substance when mixed with crude oil. Naman, who works at the Analytical Chemical Testing Lab in Mobile, Alabama, has been carrying out studies to search for the chemical markers of the dispersants BP used to both sink and break up its oil.

Poly-aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) from this toxic mix are making people sick, Naman said. PAHs contain compounds that have been identified as carcinogenic, mutagenic, and teratogenic.

"The dispersants are being added to the water and are causing chemical compounds to become water soluble, which is then given off into the air, so it is coming down as rain, in addition to being in the water and beaches of these areas of the Gulf," Naman told Al Jazeera.

"I'm scared of what I'm finding. These cyclic compounds intermingle with the Corexit [dispersants] and generate other cyclic compounds that aren't good. Many have double bonds, and many are on the EPA's danger list. This is an unprecedented environmental catastrophe."


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Aguinaga's health has been in dramatic decline.

"I have terrible chest pain, at times I can’t seem to get enough oxygen, and I'm constantly tired with pains all over my body," Aguinaga explained, "At times I'm pissing blood, vomiting dark brown stuff, and every pore of my body is dispensing water."

And Aguinaga's friend Vallian is now dead.

"After we got back from our vacation in Florida, Merrick went to work for a company contracted by BP to clean up oil in Grand Isle, Louisiana," Aguinaga said of his 33-year-old physically fit friend.

"Aside from some gloves, BP provided no personal protection for them. He worked for them for two weeks and then died on August 23. He had just got his first paycheck, and it was in his wallet, uncashed, when he died."

National health crisis

Many of the chemicals present in the oil and dispersants are known to cause headaches, nausea, vomiting, kidney damage, altered renal function, and irritation of the digestive tract. They have also caused lung damage, burning pain in the nose and throat, coughing, pulmonary edema, cancer, lack of muscle coordination, dizziness, confusion, irritation of the skin, eyes, nose, and throat, difficulty breathing, delayed reaction time and memory difficulties.

Further health problems include stomach discomfort, liver and kidney damage, unconsciousness, tiredness/lethargy, irritation of the upper respiratory tract, hematological disorders, and death. Pathways of exposure to the chemicals are inhalation, ingestion, skin, and eye contact.

Al Jazeera has talked with scores of sick people across the Gulf Coast who attribute their illnesses to chemicals from BP's oil disaster.

Paul Doom, 22, from Navarre, Florida, was training in preparation to join the US Marines, until he became extremely ill from swimming in the Gulf of Mexico.

"I stopped swimming in July because I started having severe headaches that wouldn’t go away," Doom told Al Jazeera. "But each time I went to the doctor they dismissed it."

In October, Doom began to have internal bleeding, but this too was dismissed by doctors. In November, when it worsened, he was given pain medications in the Emergency Room and was told it would pass. Less then three weeks after that, Doom collapsed with a seizure.

"Since then, I've had two blood tests for Volatile Organic Compounds [VOC's] which are in BP's oil and dispersants, and they both came back with alarmingly high levels," he said.

Since the onset of his symptoms, Doom has been dealing with ongoing internal bleeding, nose bleeds, bleeding from his ears, blood in his stool, headaches, severe diarrhea, two to five seizures per day, paralysis in his left leg and arm, and failing vision.

"A toxicologist that interpreted my blood VOC results told me they didn't know how I was alive," Doom explained. "My Hexane was off the charts, and I have 2 and 3 Methylpentane, Iso-octane, Ethylbenze, and mp-Xylene."

Wilma Subra, a MacArthur Fellow and chemist in Louisiana, has been testing the blood of BP cleanup workers and residents in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. Subra tested Doom's blood and found high amounts of several VOC's.

"Ethylbenzene, mp-Xylene and Hexane are volatile organic chemicals that are present in the BP crude oil," Subra told Al Jazeera. "We're finding these in excess of the 95th percentile, which is the average for the entire nation. Sometimes we're finding amounts 5 to 10 times in excess of the 95th percentile."

Subra explained that there has been long enough exposure so as to create chronic impacts, that include "Liver damage, kidney damage, and damage to the nervous system. So the presence of these chemicals in the blood indicates exposure."

Testing by Subra has also revealed the chemicals are present "in coastal soil sediment, wetlands, and in crab, oyster and mussel tissues."

Staggering toll

Since January, at least 67 dead dolphins have washed ashore along the Gulf Coast, an event the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration declared as "an unusual mortality event". In the whole of 2010, 89 dolphin deaths were reported for the same area.

In January, a Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute chemist and colleagues reported that the toxic chemical dispersants BP used to sink its crude oil remained in the deep ocean in an oil and gas-laden plume that had still not degraded.

Also in January, Louisiana Senator AG Crowe wrote a letter to President Barack Obama expressing his deep concern about the toxic dispersants BP used, and according to Senator Crowe, continues to use along the Gulf Coast.

"Mr President, my concern is that this toxic and damaging chemical is still being used and it will compound the long-term damage to our state, our citizens, our eco-system, our economy, our seafood industry, our wildlife and our culture," the letter read.

"We will not be fooled in to believing that the oil and the toxins are gone. Because the toxic dispersants have been, and are still being used today, the oil is being forced downward in to the water columns and then carried endlessly around and about by the Gulf currents adversely affecting our environment."

Subra, the MacArthur Fellow, is alarmed by what she is finding in the people whose blood she is testing.

"Severe symptoms, lots of respiratory and cardiovascular problems, and skin lesions," she explained. "There is a lot of internal bleeding, and the chemicals cause this by disrupting the integrity of the red blood cells."

Subra said: "We’re seeing the chemicals in different classes of people. Cleanup workers employed by BP, clean-up workers no longer employed, and we’re seeing it in community members who come in contact with the crude by fishing or recreating in the Gulf."

Al Jazeera asked Subra what she thought the local, state and federal governments should be doing about the ongoing chemical exposures.


Tar mats remain along large swaths of coastal Louisiana [Erika Blumenfeld/AJE]
"There is a lack of concern by the government agencies and the [oil] industry." She said, “There is a leaning towards wanting to say it's all fixed and let's move on, when it's not. The crude oil is continuing to come on shore in tar mats, balls, and strings."

Subra continued: "So the exposure continues. There is still a large amount of crude in the marshes and buried on the beaches. As long as that pathway is there for exposure, these problems will continue quite a long time into the future."

A bunch of guinea pigs

Jo Billups is an environmental activist who has taken it upon herself to assist in the funding, along with her friend Michelle Nix, in the blood testing being carried out by Subra.

Working with the Louisiana Environmental Action Network and several doctors along the Gulf Coast, Billups and Nix have been holding workshops and helping sick people get their blood tested and find medical assistance.

"We have sick people from Apalachicola, Florida, to Grand Isle, Louisiana, and it's not stopping and that's what's disturbing," Billups said. "The levels we are seeing are not dropping, and we're seeing new chemicals now. We gave some of our blood test results to [EPA head] Lisa Jackson. They know what is going on, and they are not doing anything about it."

"The saddest part is the children," Billups added. "We’re seeing young children with extremely high levels of chemicals. We're altering our DNA and our bodies forever, We're a bunch of guinea pigs."

Jennifer Rexford, from Panama City, Florida, was an oil clean-up worker for BP.

"We were taken to clean up oil and tar balls with inadequate equipment," Rexford told Al Jazeera. "We regularly got oil all over us."

Rexford now has a staph infection that covers much of her body that she attributes to the chemicals in BP's oil she was cleaning up.

"Everyone I know of that I worked with are now having kidney problems, along with lots of other illnesses," Rexford, who has been to the hospital four times trying to find a solution to her infection, said. "My neighbor has a rash all over her body, and another clean-up worker I know found a lump in her breast a month ago. So when I started calling my co-workers, I realized that we’re all sick."


BP cleanup workers regularly are not provided with the proper protective equipment for cleaning up hazardous material such as crude oil [Erika Blumenfeld/AJE]
"I have documentation and images showing lesions in my brain," Paul Doom said. "Lesions that are the same as lesions on the brains of marine life from the Exxon Valdez spill from marine necropsies. This is a life and death situation and a race against time."

Doom said the water and food along the Gulf Coast are not safe, and he is angry at the Obama administration.

"I would ask them why have they allowed this to happen," he said, "How can you live with yourself knowing you allowed this to happen and continue?"

Aguinaga feels betrayed as well.

"I feel stabbed in the back by my own country," he said, "I feel we are being dictated to by a foreign power. Maybe our president is not strong enough to stand up against them. I know money buys people, but they couldn't offer me enough money for the loss of my friend, and the stuff we’re going through."

Aguinaga's prognosis for the future of Gulf Coast residents?

"We’re all lab rats and we didn’t even know it. We’re waiting to see how it’s going to turn out."
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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby friendlyskies » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:28 pm

Woodsman wrote: If this keeps up, we are going to turn a natural paradise into something as inhospitable as Mars.


Hugo Chavez is on it.

Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars
By Eyanir Chinea

CARACAS (Reuters) - Capitalism may be to blame for the lack of life on the planet Mars, Venezuela's socialist President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday.

"I have always said, heard, that it would not be strange that there had been civilization on Mars, but maybe capitalism arrived there, imperialism arrived and finished off the planet," Chavez said in speech to mark World Water Day.

Chavez, who also holds capitalism responsible for many of the world's problems, warned that water supplies on Earth were drying up.

"Careful! Here on planet Earth where hundreds of years ago or less there were great forests, now there are deserts. Where there were rivers, there are deserts," Chavez said, sipping from a glass of water.

He added that the West's attacks on Libya were about water and oil reserves.

Earlier this month, the U.S. National Research Council recommended that NASA's top priority should be a robot to help determine whether Mars ever supported life and offer insight on its geological and climatic history.

It would also be the first step in an effort to get samples from Mars back to Earth.

A NASA team recently tested a space suit in a setting with extreme conditions akin to some of those found on Mars -- an Argentine base in Antarctica -- for possible use on a visit to the Red Planet.
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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby friendlyskies » Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:07 am

So, I'm researching sea turtle tours, and of course there are a bazillion new articles about the anniversary of the oil spill and its effect on Caribbean turtles.

Anyway, perhaps it's worth noting that of 157 dolphins found dead since the spill began (and remember, these are just the bodies that wash up on shore, representing a fraction of the actual deaths), only ten were visibly oiled. And of the 1,149 sick and dead sea turtles collected, only 98 had oil on them.

http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=18346
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/pdfs/oilspi ... s_data.pdf

So they think it was something in the dispersant, not the oil. Which isn't exactly a conspiracy theory, but whatever.
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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby Woodsman » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:37 am

friendlyskies wrote:So, I'm researching sea turtle tours, and of course there are a bazillion new articles about the anniversary of the oil spill and its effect on Caribbean turtles.

Anyway, perhaps it's worth noting that of 157 dolphins found dead since the spill began (and remember, these are just the bodies that wash up on shore, representing a fraction of the actual deaths), only ten were visibly oiled. And of the 1,149 sick and dead sea turtles collected, only 98 had oil on them.

http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=18346
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/pdfs/oilspi ... s_data.pdf

So they think it was something in the dispersant, not the oil. Which isn't exactly a conspiracy theory, but whatever.


If you want a lead to talk to someone about that a friend of mine does volunteer work with the dolphins in FL. around St. Pete Shoot me a message on FB and I'll relay it.
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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby michelle in alaska » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:56 am

"Severe symptoms, lots of respiratory and cardiovascular problems, and skin lesions," she explained. "There is a lot of internal bleeding, and the chemicals cause this by disrupting the integrity of the red blood cells."
Subra said: "We’re seeing the chemicals in different classes of people. Cleanup workers employed by BP, clean-up workers no longer employed, and we’re seeing it in community members who come in contact with the crude by fishing or recreating in the Gulf."

Well. It's "been there and done that", up here.

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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby Sri Lanky » Sun May 29, 2011 11:21 pm

There,I spruced up your above post,Michelle...I de-denised it.
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Postby michelle in alaska » Mon May 30, 2011 11:35 am

There,I spruced up your above post,Michelle...I de-denised it.

my good man--please--don't ever 'de-denise' me again. i am only so lucky to amplify her essence. if even by accident.
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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby friendlyskies » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:04 pm

Here's a list of all the BP whistleblowers who have been imprisoned or murdered since the Deepwater Horizon spill:

http://www.holyghostinthemachine.com/pa ... gjailed-bp

Dead-Missing-Jailed BP Whistleblowers
Source: Coastal Warriors
2011, April 2 - Tucker MENDOZA, a Gulf truth activist with many youtube videos, was shot 4 times.

Gregory Stone

February 17, 2011 - LSU scientist Gregory Stone, 54 - Unknown Illness

Anthony Nicholas Tremonte

January 26, 2011 - Anthony Nicholas Tremonte, 31 - Mississippi Department of Marine Resources officer, from Ocean Springs arrested on child porn charge

Dr. Thomas B. Manton

January 19, 2011 - Dr. Thomas B. Manton former President and CEO of the International Oil Spill Control Corporation - imprisonment and subsequent murder while jailed

John P. Wheeler II

December 31, 2010 - John P. Wheeler III, a former Pentagon official and presidential aide and a defense consultant and expert on chemical and biological weapons - was beaten to death in an assault, body was discovered in a Wilmington landfill

James Patrick Black

November 23, 2010 - James Patrick Black, an incident commander for BP's Gulf of Mexico oil spill response team, died Tuesday night near Destin, Florida in a small plane crash'

Chitra Chaunhan

November 15, 2010 - Chitra Chaunhan, 33 - Chauhan worked in the USF Center for Biological Defense and Global Health Infectious Disease Research - Found dead in an apparent suicide by cyanide at a Temple Terrace hotel. She leaves behind a husband and a young child.

Dr. Jeffrey Gardner, Swan Doctor

November, 2010 - MIA Status - Dr. Geoffrey Gardner, Lakeland, FL - Swan expert who “ran into legal trouble over an expired prescription license has closed his practice” — Was investigating unexplained bird deaths near Sarasota abruptly and immediately closed his practice, and apparently his investigation into the deaths of swans in Sarasota, suspected to have been impacted by the BP Oil Disaster. No one has heard or spoken with him since. Watch this news report covering his investigation before his disappearance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqbx2Tnb ... r_embedded

Roger Grooters, Cyclist

October 6, 2010 - Roger Grooters, 66, was hit by a truck as he passed through Panama City, Florida. Mr. Grooters had been knocked down and killed close to the end of a 3,200-mile trans-America charity ride to raise awareness about the Gulf Coast oil disaster. He began his cross-country bike ride in Oceanside, California, on September 10th. Grooters's family and friends will cycle the final stretch of the journey from the Pacific to the Atlantic in his honour, raising cash to support Gulf Coast families. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1G4s6su96

Senator Ted Stevens

August 9, 2010 - Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska, 86, the longest-serving Republican senator in history, was among nine people on board when the 1957 DeHavilland DHC-3 Otter, crashed into a brush- and rock-covered mountainside Monday afternoon about 17 miles north of the southwest Alaska fishing town of Dillingham, federal officials said. Stevens was the recipient of a whistleblower's communication relative to the BP Oil Disaster blow-out preventer, and a conspiracy of secrecy to hide the facts from the public. (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/132/410/ ... acked.html)

"You and your fellow Committee members may wish to require BP to explain what action was ultimately instituted to cease the practice of falsifying BOP tests at BP Prudhoe drilling rigs. It was a cost saving but dangerous practice, again endangering the BP workforce, until I exposed it to Senator Ted Stevens, the EPA, and the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission." The cause of the crash is still an OPEN investigation by the NTSB (http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=ANC10MA068&rpt=p)

Matthew Simmons

August 13, 2010 - Matthew Simmons, 67 - Simmons’ body was found Sunday night in his hot tub, investigators said. An autopsy by the state medical examiner’s office concluded Monday that he died from accidental drowning with heart disease as a contributing factor - “It was painful as can be” to be only insider willing to speak out against the "officials" during the BP Oil Disaster in the Gulf of Mexico

Scientist Joseph Morrissey

April 6, 2010 - Scientist Joseph Morrissey, 46 - cell biologist and college professor, a near-native Floridian who chose to return to South Florida after studying at elite universities - was fatally shot during what police say was a home invasion robbery.
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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby nowonmai » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:48 pm

Whatever you do, get that goddam swan doctor mua ha ha ha ha
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Postby swordpoint9 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:28 pm

Woodsman wrote:WOW - Just WOW.



I concur WoodsMan !
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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby friendlyskies » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:58 pm

Is this some kind of joke?

Minnesota Post

Former BP CEO Tony Hayward Hired to Oversee Environment and Safety

< Lake Superior warming could harm shipping and tourism | Main | Rollovers add up on Highway 60 detour >
Tony Hayward to oversee environment and safety at Glencore

Posted at 11:41 AM on July 26, 2011 by Michael Olson (0 Comments)
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Former BP CEO Tony Hayward has been hired by Glencore to oversee environment and safety, reports MinnPost. Hayward led the British oil company during the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, one of the worst environmental disasters in U.S. history.

Glencore International, a Swiss commodities trader, is a strategic partner with PolyMet at the planned hardrock sulfide mine near Hoyt Lakes and Biwabik. "Glencore has options to boost its stake to 24% in PolyMet under current agreements," reports the Wall Street Journal.

The environmental permitting process continues at the site.

MinnPost's Don Shelby, fresh from a trip to the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, explains his concerns about Hayward and the PolyMet mine:

PolyMet is just the first of many hardrock mining operations in line to seek permits. PolyMet is outside the BWCA watershed. If there is a pollution problem, it will affect the Embarrass, Partridge and St. Louis Rivers and Lake Superior. The others, if they are permitted to operate and then discharge toxic waste, as nearly every other such mining operation has, the pollution will flow into the pristine boundary waters where I just drank unfiltered lake water. The discharge of toxic waste into the BWCA is not just a pollution problem, it will be, for millions of people, the end of the world. That's not a pollution problem.
Related Statewide: Should regulators judge PolyMet on Glencore's record?


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Look man, I can't tell you whether any of this stuff is true, or relevant, or even part of a giant Illuminati conspiracy to resurrect C'thulu and become painfully transformed into loathsome and perverse gods that will slaver hungrily for the rest of eternity above we fragile mortals, finally powerless, absolutely powerless, mwahahaha beneath them. All I know is that swans are sacred in various religions and tend to elicit a spiritual response in sensitive people. Plus, for some reason, the dude made this earnest list compiled by hippies who are probably paying attention.

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Re: The Oil Spill Conspiracy Theories Are Piling Up

Postby Q » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:55 pm

I'm down here on the Gulf, and everything is fine. Food coming out of it isn't toxic, the beaches are as beautiful as ever. So much for the emotional, reactionary, shit science that said the Gulf was doomed for all eternity.
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