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Affordable Leica

Postby rickshaw92 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:22 pm

V-Lux 20 for a lousy £495. Worth it?
Im reallly fuclimg pissed but fespite that I can still hit a tarfet at 1000m plus. mayVRVe bnot tonight but it qint beyond the wit if man. Nowhammy.
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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby HockeyGuy » Tue May 04, 2010 12:27 am

Don't know what the conversion rate is, but this place is usually the cheapest here in the States:
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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Tue May 04, 2010 7:38 am

Affordable compared to what?

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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby Dabbi » Tue May 04, 2010 9:13 am

It's a rebadged Panasonic, you can buy it for half of the price of the leica if you dont mind that it says panasonic instead of leica.

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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby HockeyGuy » Tue May 04, 2010 2:22 pm

I'm curious as to the guts/lense? .If it is the exact same, that is "brand extortion." Nice find.
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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby lightstalker » Tue May 04, 2010 11:44 pm

Yes, its brand extortion. Leica do whatever the fuck the want, however ridiculous, even though they almost went down the can a while back .
Leica did the same thing with the D-lux 4, which is essentially a Panasonic Lumix LX3 with a red dot on the front. Same lens, same everything. If you want a seriously good point and shoot get a Ricoh GR3.
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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby RYP » Mon May 10, 2010 3:34 am

The last good leica was the M4 and maybe the R6.2. The lens continue to be spectacular but viciously expensive. My favorite was the M2 with Velvia or Panatomic X developed in Microdol. You can much of that by getting a Panasonic with the Leica and using the artsy black and white setting
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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby cveuro » Thu May 20, 2010 11:43 am

If you really consider the digital point and shoot Leica, I would recommend buying the Panasonic version instead. Saves you a lot of money and you can find the Leica firmware on the internet. That way, you use a Leica camera which says Panasonic on the case pretty much.

For analog Leica's... Champagne court in Hong Kong. Really good deals on 2nd hand (analog) Leicas and other camera stuff.
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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Fri May 21, 2010 12:07 am

I still don't get what makes a Leica worth 6+ thousand bucks


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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby RYP » Sat May 22, 2010 3:34 am

Go big... Get the M9 with a killer wide
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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Tue May 25, 2010 8:56 am

I still don't get what makes Leica such a great camera that you have to choose between buying one or a used car



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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby RYP » Thu May 27, 2010 2:08 pm

....and you never will.

It's a dog whistle thing. Leica, like many other obsessive brand identities appeals to those who understand what it takes to achieve that extra gap between good and the best. The root of the obsession has always been the lenses, not the body. And Leica has failed many times in that area. When Leica wanted me to convert from Nikon I went out and shot the same pics with both lenses and saw little to no difference. They pointed out that I was shooting at f8 which is the optimum setting for all lenses, cheap or expensive and allows the center of the lenses to do most of the work.

I went back out and shot again wide open and there was no comparison the Nikon stuff was crap, the Leica stuff was stunning. So from then on I shot wide open, slow film, funky light and am never disappointed. I shoot a Nikon D700 now because of the full frame and high sensitivity with the most expensive lenses Nikon makes and they are good but massive and clumsy, destroying the low key relationship a rangefinder builds with the subject. Leica has been making crap bodies and great lenses (you think the body is expensive, price a full lens kit) but there is no comparison. I am going to wait for the higher rez M10 if and when it ever comes out and I am watching the new rangefinder like digitals coming to market. For now I use my Panasonic with a wide Leica on artsy fartsy black and white and its pretty damn good.

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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby JamesInTheWorld » Fri May 28, 2010 5:21 am

Do you keep your film tubes in your Members Only jacket or above the 8-track rack in your conversion van?

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Re: Affordable Leica

Postby Dabbi » Fri May 28, 2010 11:36 am

Film still has it's merit and applications.

If people like to shoot film then that is great and there are alot of things that digital still can not totaly reproduce but it is getting closer and closer every day.

I did a film where we had to drag a fridge around with us to all the locations to have a cooling gel standby because the Red camera kept overheating and had to shut down. That is a problem that film does not have f.e.
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