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yorick wrote:It was also agreed that the Muslims could build mosques in Catholic countries without interference as long as Roman Catholicism could flourish in Arab countries.""
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Mohammed and the Vatican Popes
Much of this information came from Alberto Rivera, former Jesuit
priest after his conversion to Christianity. It is excerpted from "The
Prophet," published by Chick Publications, PO Box 662, Chino CA 91708.
Before this time, Augustine became the bishop of North Africa and was effective in winning Arabs to Roman Catholicism, including whole tribes. It was among these Arab converts to Catholicism that the concept of looking for an Arab prophet developed.
The Vatican desperately wanted Jerusalem because of its religious significance, but was blocked by the Jews. Another problem was the true Christians in North Africa who preached the gospel. Roman Catholicism was growing in power, but would not tolerate opposition.
In the Vatican briefing, Cardinal Bea told us this story: A wealthy Arabian lady who was a faithful follower of the pope played a tremendous part in this drama. She was a widow named Khadijah. She gave her wealth to the church and retired to a convent, but was given an assignment. She was to find a brilliant young man who could be used by the Vatican to create a new religion and become the messiah for the children of Ishmael. Khadijah had a cousin named Waraquah,, who was also a very faithful Roman Catholic and the Vatican placed him in a critical role as Muhammad's advisor. He had tremendous influence on Muhammad. Teachers were sent to young Muhammad and he had intensive training.
Muhammad studied the works of St. Augustine which prepared him for his "great calling." The Vatican had Catholic Arabs across North Africa spread the story of a great one who was about to rise up among the people and be the chosen one of their God.
In the fifth year of Muhammad's mission, persecution came against his followers because they refused to worship the idols in the Kaaba. Muhammad instructed some of them to flee to Abysinnia where Negus, the Roman Catholic king, accepted them because Muhammad's views on the virgin Mary were so close to Roman Catholic doctrine. These Muslims received protection from Catholic kings because of Muhammad's revelations.
By the time Muhammad died, the religion of Islam was exploding. The nomadic Arab tribes were joining forces in the name of Allah and his prophet, Muhammad. Some of Muhammad's writings were placed in the Koran, others were never published. They are now in the hands of high ranking holy men (Ayatollahs) in the Islamic faith. When Cardinal Bea shared with us in the Vatican, he said, These writings are guarded because they contain information that links the Vatican to the creation of Islam. Both sides have so much information on each other, that if exposed, it could create such a scandal that it would be a disaster for both religions.
In their "holy" book, the Koran, Christ is regarded as only a prophet. If the pope was His representative on earth, then he also must be a prophet of God. This caused the followers of Muhammad
to fear and respect the pope as another "holy man."
The pope moved quickly and issued bulls granting the Arab generals permission to invade and conquer the nations of North
Africa. The Vatican helped to finance the building of these
massive Islamic armies in exchange for three favors:
Eliminate the Jews and Christians (true believers, which they called
infidels).
It was also agreed that the Muslims could build mosques in Catholic countries without interference as long as Roman Catholicism could flourish in Arab countries.
yorick wrote:And when did the scism between Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholicism occur? Could Roman Catholics have claimed Negus as one of their own?
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Common mistake of "historians" is identifying ethnic/racial groups by linguistics alone. Its kinda like saying Black Americans are NOT an Africa based ethnic group with African foundations because none can speak any African languages.
Then Jews had no voice in running the place at time of the crucifixion? Otherwise it was about 200-300AD when Roman Catholic corporation formed and seems likely there was strong Jewish political presence at Jerusalem then as well. Especially with Roman census takers *always* identifying births of inhabitants at the area as "Jews" according to their records. And yes, Romans kept impeccable records on crop harvests, industrial output and population statistics at areas under Roman governance.
More likely the word was spread verbally than by sending out published and printed flyers. Remember they had a couple hundred years to do so before recruiting Mohamed to author his own "prophet of god" story.
And when did the scism between Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholicism occur? Could Roman Catholics have claimed Negus as one of their own?
Others might argue that this period in history marked Northern migration of Jews, pushed by Roman Catholics and Arabs, into what is now Europe.
Solo, its great to meet somebody who takes an interest in unravelling religious politics, fabrications and lies of the Roman Catholic Church. Not saying I agree entirely with this "Mohammed and the Vatican Popes" conspiracy theory, but it provides excellent food for thought.
yorick wrote: Thank you very much, but I'd rather judge for myself how my time is spent. Am always playing both sides against the middle, you understand, its the only way to arrive at any sort of philosophical conclusion.
This editorial on "Mohammed and the Vatican Popes" is perfect for this respectable forum - The Tin Hat Cafe. Thank you for contributing your own research endeavors to this thread.
We will never know what influence Vatican Popes weilded upon Islam
But it would be just plain stupid to assume the Vatican in Rome did not take a deliberate and direct interest in emerging prophets and the faiths they proposed at that time.
Captain_Solo: That is right next door to the home of David Koresh and Jim Jones in the apartment for cult-wackos..... no more "thought" put into it than a baby wipping his shit on the wall..... a complete disregard for historical evidence and in fact boarders on schizophrenia..... taken into a space ship by Martians and had his anus probed.
Yorick: How old are you?? Sounds like you're stuck on 7 years.
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