How To Carry A Handgun in “No Gun/no CCW” City’s

[JamesInTheWorld]

How To Carry A Handgun in “No Gun/no CCW” City’s

This is from another post that went a little off topic so I thought that I would start a new thread.

If you live in cities like New York or Washington DC where firearms are pretty much completely banned or on states like Hawaii that don’t issue Concealed Weapons Permits there is a way to “get around” that law legally.

This is what I did so I could carry in DC:

There is an easy way to get around it, trade your skills or time for an auxiliary spot on a local police department or sheriff’s office.

It is easier than you think to do that, especially in big cities because there are so many small obscure small police departments. Just get a city government directory and call every agency that you have never heard of, offer some sort of unique skill or even just your time and…BAM, you’re a Police Officer with the “Metropolitan Apple Orchard Regulation Bureau’s Law Enforcement Division” and can carry a pistol anywhere in the city.

The only disadvantages are you may have to go to the police academy for a few months, but most big cities have weekend or part-time academies so it won’t be too much trouble.

The benefits are huge: a free gun, no wait firearms purchase, FOP membership (& FOP license plates = no speeding tickets ever), lots of great free firearms training, free range use, free premium ammo, cheap health insurance for your family through police organizations and an alternate career (there will always be crime) if you ever loose your job.

It also helps if your best friend is the sheriff, but ether way works

BAM!, you may now carry, conceal and own a handgun in any city, no matter the restrictions.




~JITW

[Kurt]

I am sure there is a way. But in New York, the Auxillary cops are often reserved for the big donors to various Policemen's charities. The ones who really do this are the folks in the Jewelry business. Auxillary Police are priced out of range for the normal folks here because of the culture here of payment for privilages.

Politicians, both City and State often get CC permits right away. In fact one City Politician with a CC permit was waved through City Hall's metal detectors for him and his aids, and then one of his aids (also having a politically connected CC permit) shot him dead right in City Hall.

Oddly not a single politician critisised allowing politicians to carry in City Hall while Civvies still have to go through metal detectors...But they are trying to sue gun dealers in Pennsylvania and Virginia for legally selling guns that illegally end up in NYC.

[JamesInTheWorld]

That’s why I said “get a city government directory and call every agency that you have never heard of”, almost every city agency has a Law Enforcement Division (sometimes only one part time guy). Getting on NYPD or MPDC would be a pain in the ass, if NYC is anything like DC there are probably at least 60 to 90 small PD’s (DC has 138 small PD’s) within the city limits.

It may not be the coolest thing to be a Police Officer with the “Metropolitan Apple Orchard Regulation Bureau’s Law Enforcement Division” but it still works, these are the agency’s that are most likely to be open to a little help.

You may have to hustle a little to convince them but if you can gab, it shouldn’t be a problem. The small (1-40) man PD’s are way under funded and understaffed, I bet if you offered to set up a custom database or even wi-fi in there office you could get a badge.



~JITW

[yorick]

And what are the fines and penalties for illegal concealed carry?? Here it's $25 and most people think it's worth it.

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[JamesInTheWorld]

In DC? Mandatory Jail Time











~JITW

[Kurt]

And what are the fines and penalties for illegal concealed carry?? Here it's $25 and most people think it's worth it.

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Its a Felony in NYC. I am sure they want you to rot in jail for a bit too.

Of course I could always flee to Kentucky because it sound like extradition for concealed weapon would not happen there.

[SRR]

In Canada, concealed carry doesn't exist. Therefore if you are a white male, you will rot in jail and receive a nasty fine for having an illegal weapon. Only visible minorities are permitted to have concealed weapons and murder people without going to jail.

[copperhead]

In Canada, concealed carry doesn't exist. Therefore if you are a white male, you will rot in jail and receive a nasty fine for having an illegal weapon. Only visible minorities are permitted to have concealed weapons and murder people without going to jail.

Very european.

[Professor Devlin]

Who needs a permit when you can just get a cheap under folder Ak and an Adidas tennis racket bag. No one will ever know.

[JamesInTheWorld]

And what are the fines and penalties for illegal concealed carry?? Here it's $25 and most people think it's worth it.

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Paying a fine is ok for people that don’t care if they get a bunch of misdemeanors, but for people that do work (or work for) with the US or local Government it means we would loose our job or business opportunities











~JITW

[yorick]

Of course I could always flee to Kentucky because it sound like extradition for concealed weapon would not happen there.

And in reverse K'tuckians must carry a list of gun friendly states recognizin ky gunlaws in the glove box at all times when traveling with loaded handgun at arms reach, completely legal by commonwealth standards, for when venturing out of state.

Got the list at Louville Red Cross when taking DSHR training to provide disaster relief at NOLA, copies were circulated around the room when somebody asked about bringing a gun. Naturally and for obvious reasons everybody wanted to include an open carry sidearm in their disaster jump kit.

Hardly anybody wants to volunteer for disaster control work in areas where you caint even carry a gun anymore. And given the nature circumstances typical to disaster areas where lawlessness often prevails, we all kinda agreed it probly wouldnt be worth showing up at all to provide emergency relief and volunteer security services at states on the alternative shit list that dont respect 2nd Amendment rights.

BTW, this is an issue that will murder Democrats in the next pres election - Nobody at commonwealth level wants to support federal administration of an executive office that wants to dilute civil rights of citizens that allows em to establish law/order and defend themselves, our homes and property as we see fit.

Only visible minorities are permitted to have concealed weapons and murder people without going to jail.

Yeah but generally its the same minority group killin each other, aint it? We've got about half dozen shootings that occur in the same section of L'ville every week. Most folks consider it commonwealth self-regulated, spontaneous/autonomous population control, internal rivalries among the same minority group - that encourages survival of the fittest.

...for people that do work (or work for) with the US or local Government it means we would loose our job or business opportunities....

Nah, there you go again peddling the "official" version that haint amounted to dogshit since intel services at Operative/Global USinvolvement level been unleashed to train, recruit and deploy operatives in any fashion they see fit. Otherwise yeah, i guess at certain echelons everybody is a little bit squeemish about using their own initiative. Once again, is this a generational thing where young'uns and littles today been saturated and handicap'd by the "mommy may i" syndrome? Nevertheless (and keith will agree with me on this) it's been a proven fact throughout history that berserkers and crazies, natural homegrown assets beyond the pale of middle management,. When provided with resources, interpreting "the law" for themselves (especially after sneaking into positions of authority and responsibility, recognizable as operatives at the highest level) always produce the best results. Rarely does the status-quo provide our finest assets. Hell, i thought everybody knew this.



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[JamesInTheWorld]

...for people that do work (or work for) with the US or local Government it means we would loose our job or business opportunities....

Nah, there you go again peddling the "official" version that haint amounted to dogshit since intel services at Operative/Global USinvolvement level been unleashed to train, recruit and deploy operatives in any fashion they see fit. Otherwise yeah, i guess at certain echelons everybody is a little bit squeemish about using their own initiative. Once again, is this a generational thing where young'uns and littles today been saturated and handicap'd by the "mommy may i" syndrome? Nevertheless (and keith will agree with me on this) it's been a proven fact throughout history that berserkers and crazies, natural homegrown assets beyond the pale of middle management,. When provided with resources, interpreting "the law" for themselves (especially after sneaking into positions of authority and responsibility, recognizable as operatives at the highest level) always produce the best results. Rarely does the status-quo provide our finest assets. Hell, i thought everybody knew this.

Dude what are you talking about? Quite a rant:)

What I meant was: if you work in a city or federal job and get a misdemeanor conviction for a weapons violation you will be out of a job

Am I wrong?





~JITW

[yorick]

Yes you are wrong, though gun laws are so convoluted to be incomprehensible. Meanwhile why in the world should misdemeanor weapons violation be treated any different from say misdemeanor DUI??


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[JamesInTheWorld]

You know how it is, as soon as the “Evil” word GUNS! Is attached to something it is perceived as “More Bad”.

What I said is true, you won’t get a job with the city or the federal government with a weapons conviction. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but those are the facts dude.



~JITW

[SRR]

Meanwhile why in the world should misdemeanor weapons violation be treated any different from say misdemeanor DUI??

Ooh, don't get me started. Here in Canuckistan we encourage everyone to get involved in that brutal bloodsport called Hockey as early in their life as possible, and cheer when people get their cheekbones shattered and noses bent backwards while on the ice. But tell someone you're an avid target shooter for SPORT and they think you're a mad, cold blooded killer. It's the taboo behind the whole damned thing, an irrational fear, and I dare say it's been engineered by the nanny-state left. The anti-gun coalitions love selective ignorance to achieve their global goals. But I digress.