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Verichip tracking you?

Postby media » Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:21 pm

"dual use for tracking people's movements " if i was not so afraid of big brother it might be a good idea...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Medical milestone or privacy invasion? A tiny
computer chip approved Wednesday for implantation in a patient's
arm can speed vital information about a patient's medical history
to doctors and hospitals. But critics warn that it could open new
ways to imperil the confidentiality of medical records.
The Food and Drug Administration said Wednesday that Applied
Digital Solutions of Delray Beach, Fla., could market the VeriChip,
an implantable computer chip about the size of a grain of rice, for
medical purposes.
With the pinch of a syringe, the microchip is inserted under the
skin in a procedure that takes less than 20 minutes and leaves no
stitches. Silently and invisibly, the dormant chip stores a code
that releases patient-specific information when a scanner passes
over it.
Think UPC code. The identifier, emblazoned on a food item,
brings up its name and price on the cashier's screen. At the
doctor's office the codes stamped onto chips, once scanned, would
reveal such information as a patient's allergies and prior
treatments, speeding care.
The microchips have already been implanted in 1 million pets.
But the chip's possible dual use for tracking people's movements --
as well as speeding delivery of their medical information to
emergency rooms -- has raised alarm.
"If privacy protections aren't built in at the outset, there
could be harmful consequences for patients," said Emily Stewart, a
policy analyst at the Health Privacy Project.
To protect patient privacy, the devices should reveal only vital
medical information, like blood type and allergic reactions, needed
for health care workers to do their jobs, Stewart said.
An information technology guru at Detroit Medical Center,
however, sees the benefits of the devices and will lobby for his
center's inclusion in a VeriChip pilot program.
"One of the big problems in health care has been the medical
records situation. So much of it is still on paper," said David
Ellis, the center's chief futurist and co-founder of the Michigan
Electronic Medical Records Initiative.
As "medically mobile" patients visit specialists for care,
their records fragment on computer systems that don't talk to each
"It's part of the future of medicine to have these kinds of
technologies that make life simpler for the patient," Ellis said.
Pushing for the strongest encryption algorithms to ensure hackers
can't nab medical data as information transfers from chip to reader
to secure database, will help address privacy concerns, he said.
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on Wednesday
announced $139 million in grants to help make real President Bush's
push for electronic health records for most Americans within a
William A. Pierce, an HHS spokesman, could not say whether
VeriChip and its accompanying secure database of medical records
fit within that initiative.
"Exactly what those technologies are is still to be sorted
out," Pierce said. "It all has to respect and comport with the
privacy rules."
Applied Digital gave away scanners to a few hundred animal
shelters and veterinary clinics when it first entered the pet
market 15 years ago. Now, 50,000 such scanners have been sold.
To kickstart the chip's use among humans, Applied Digital will
provide $650 scanners for free at 200 of the nation's trauma
In pets, installing the chip runs about $50. For humans, the
chip implantation cost would be $150 to $200, said Angela Fulcher,
an Applied Digital spokeswoman.
Fulcher could not say whether the cost of data storage and
encrypted transmission of medical information would be passed to
Ultimately, the company hopes patients who suffer from such
ailments as diabetes and Alzheimer's or who undergo complex
treatments, like chemotherapy, would have chips implanted. If the
procedure proves as popular for use in humans as in pets, that
could mean up to 1 million chips implanted in people.
The company's chief executive officer, Scott R. Silverman, is
one of a half dozen executives who had chips implanted. Silverman
said chips implanted for medical uses could also be used for
security purposes, like tracking employee movement through nuclear
power plants.
Such security uses are rare in the United States.
Meanwhile, the chip has been used for pure whimsy: Club hoppers
in Barcelona, Spain, now use the microchip to enter a VIP area and,
through links to a different database, speed payment much like a
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Postby unklenastie » Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:05 am

I really dont trust any type of device that could potentially be used to track me.
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Postby kilroy » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:37 am

if you knew about the chip and where it was, it could most likely be able to be removed or rendered useless quite easily.
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Postby ROB » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:42 am

The problem here is that the people who advocate these types of technologies are often quite genuinely surprised that there is such a passionate resistance to them. They are quite sincere in their belief of the good they can do.

Indeed time and the concept of "function creep" are the two biggest enemies of people who fear this type of technology - rightly so if history is any guide.
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Postby patriot » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:47 am

if you knew about the chip and where it was, it could most likely be able to be removed or rendered useless quite easily.

That's probably not as easy as you make it sound, and besides that's not the point. Anyone who is willing to stick a microchip in their arm that contains their medical history and a tracking device needs to have their head examined. Radio collars and medical tags are for sheep and cattle, not human beings.
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Postby nomad » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:23 am

shit you think thats scary in a recent issue of discover magazine were the cover says " mind control" has an article showing DARPA's new project of putting chips in the brain they had a rat with a brain chip that they led through a maze with a remote control, another scientist had stopped a chraging bull with the push of a button, theres a pic of him standing in front of the bull with a big remote in his hand the kind you see a kid playing with, and weirdest of all a monkey who was controlling a robotic arm with his thoughts!! god knows what they got planned for us

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Postby nomad » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:27 am

oh p.s. the bull project i mentioned the article said they did that in 1964
we cant even imagine the top secret stuff there doing now!

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Postby el3so » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:19 pm

patriot wrote: Anyone who is willing to stick a microchip in their arm that contains their medical history and a tracking device needs to have their head examined. Radio collars and medical tags are for sheep and cattle, not human beings.

I've got the magnetic chip with my medical history in my wallet, same card that IDs me as a medically insured person. No more of the old 'tattoo with your bloodgroup' for us European subjects...
Private insurance and superior medical care in the USA means there are so few patients that doctors are bound to know and remember your name.

I admit that more often than not the knowledge that your capitalist ways are the workings of the Devil, is my only sedative while I lie and wait for the leeches to be applied.
That and being confident that the extra insurance from work will cover the "BJ for breakfast" service ;-)
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