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DawnC71 wrote:...I did not sleep for two days afterwards.
Cheers,
dawn
seektravelinfo wrote:DawnC71 wrote:...I did not sleep for two days afterwards.
Cheers,
dawn
Why not? W, Rumsfield, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz are sleeping like babies.
svizzerams wrote:l..but Iraq was deliberate, calculated...and unnecessary...
NPR story this AM about funeral two best friends, 21 years old, killed in Iraq last week - my daughter is 21. Jesus.
Land Rover wrote:
you join the military, you face the consequences. period.
Land Rover wrote:svizzerams wrote:l..but Iraq was deliberate, calculated...and unnecessary...
unnecessary? would you rather have the iraq women continue to be raped, the men mangled and the children tortured?NPR story this AM about funeral two best friends, 21 years old, killed in Iraq last week - my daughter is 21. Jesus.
you join the military, you face the consequences. period.
seektravelinfo wrote:Land Rover wrote:
you join the military, you face the consequences. period.
It doesn't stop there. Lie to the people, you face the consequences. period.
seektravelinfo wrote:DawnC71 wrote:...I did not sleep for two days afterwards.
Cheers,
dawn
Why not? W, Rumsfield, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz are sleeping like babies.
Land Rover wrote:seektravelinfo wrote:DawnC71 wrote:...I did not sleep for two days afterwards.
Cheers,
dawn
Why not? W, Rumsfield, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz are sleeping like babies.
actually, ashcroft quit and cheney had chest pains.
KURT - this thread belongs in the conspiracy theory thread.....
when you join the military you don't get a choice whether or not to go to war. it is an understanding that when you join, you MAY go to war. Also, you don't join the military and necessarily have to agree with what you go to war for...it's a job, not a goddamn political platform. Don't join the military if you can't handle people making political decsions for you.
are they accurate?
....according to who? the media that you read? the iraqis? the bible belters?
you don't have to agree, but don't speak for those that are there. unfortunately, all we see on the news is what i deem emotional porn re dying soldiers and their families. these stories we hear are biased and made to make us feel guilty about sending our sons and daughters to war. although i do not contend dying in a war is somehow good, the crap we see on TV is hype
whims. yeah, i am sure that it was a whim to go to war. you think they are sleeping well at night? be serious. that is a ridiculous assessment. on another note, aren't you the same type of person who is blaming GW for 9-11...for not preventing it..? well, don't you think he is trying to prevent another 9-11, as opposed to just calling a war on a whim? if we didn't invade iraq and WMD were used against us in another homeland security breach, then would you blame GW administration again for not knowing? It just stupifies me that this adminstration is being held responsible for 9-11 and then when they try to prevent another catastrophe from happening....it's a crime against humanity (your words). Do a reality check.
Now where did you get the above ideas???? - I have never expressed such ideas as I DON'T and never have held this administration responsible for 9-11 - just responsible for their choices of response to 9-11. I hold 19 individuals responsible for choosing the actions they did and whoever provided them support to accomplish their goal. Considering they were from countries other than Iraq (Egypt, UAE, Yemen and KSA) don't you find it ironic that Iraq is who we attacked????? A country with no direct ties with AQ. And WMDs weren't used against us - airplanes were. And it wasn't a country that attacked us - it was an ideology. How do you prevent something like 9-11? Hell if I know. It was such a brilliant and simple plan. Now we are a reduced to a nation scared of its own shadow. Not me personally. I think all this homeland security hype is simply a way to keep us in line with some pretty outrageous erosion of civil liberties. Seems like they are just doing something to be doing SOMETHING. But what does it accomplish. Chasing swamp gas. I was abroad from March 2003-October 2003. Looking at the USA from outside was interesting to say the least, hearing reports of color alerts, runs on duct tape etc etc. Frankly terrorists don't have to exert a bit of effort or resources to have us running helter-skelter - just say "Boo". It has mystified me that people in this country think that government somehow has the power and responsibility to keep us safe from all harms at all times, under all circumstances and then fix it instantly....kinda like how people somehow think that an inaccurate assessment of a hurricanes path is somehow "someones" fault ...hind sight being 20/20... Of all the things I could blame on GWB - 9-11 isn't one of them and neither is the flu vaccine shortage (not his fault, definitely not). I don't believe 9-11 was preventable and if the expectation that future such events are preventable 100% exists among our citizens - then we are truly pathetic. You do what is reasonable to prevent, to prepare and if events occur you make reasonable decisions to respond. Afghanistan was a reasonable response. Iraq was not. Bombing KSA, UAE, Yemen and Egypt would have been more logical (but stupid as it was the aforementioned ideology that attacked, not those nations per se, but given such logic if we HAD to attack responsible countries well it was their citizens after all.....). 9-11 was crime against humanity; Iraq is a crime against humanity, Darfur, Rawanda, the Balkans, Beslan, N. Korea....all crimes against humanity. Invading Iraq will not prevent another 9-11 - in fact in may just guarantee that there is another one. Our leaders, who send others to do the dirty work are waaaay too comfortable....I think they should squirm more...on the front seat of humvee...embedded with our troopS
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