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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby Fenrisco » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:08 pm

I recall an Ipswich cabbie telling me circa 1997 (outside Fat Bob's Inept Tattoo Emporium) "I in't got nuffink against you gofficks but watch your boot buckles don't rip up me seats, awrright?" Enlightened times of subcultural tolerance, sadly past.

That was before those prostitute murders, of course. They keep their opinions to themselves these days, just in case.

Cabbies, that is. Prostitutes too, I expect.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby nowonmai » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:16 pm

If you're one of those gofficks you'll like this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00z62b1

The instrumental track is All Cats are Grey from Faith (The Cure) but I'm sure you know that already.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby Fenrisco » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:22 pm

Cheers. I won't enjoy it but I might like it.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby Zero » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:43 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01GVDVsj7kI

For the goths, you make it too easy.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby Fenrisco » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:15 pm

Not all goffs are grey in the dark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWvOHT0zfXY
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby nowonmai » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:04 pm

Black Planet is the ultimate goth dirge IMO.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby Fenrisco » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:50 pm

Good call - an understated track and an underappreciated album in general.

Out of my mind's eye, out of memory
Black world, out of my mind


Andrew certainly has the ability to deliver the goods lyrically, when he can be bothered. Ely boy, of course.

Looking forward to Typhoon Panadol tomorrow.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby nowonmai » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:20 pm

Evocative of the times. Note the bit about that cunt Andy Kershaw - a fucking dickhead if ever there was one.

http://gps.tsom.org/history.html
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby Fenrisco » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:37 pm

Ah, life above the chemist. That was well-written, I haven't seen this
As its main theme it utilised a complex theory that the horrors of 20th century (World War I, concentration camps, the atomic age, the Cold War and the potential to destroy the world in four minutes flat) made it impossible to get along with the world on an ethical level, to the extent that it was futile to try to do so.

articulated so well before. Or indeed at all. It's also good to see Gift regarded as anything other than a spoiler album, I always rather liked it. Never had the heart to listen to SSV-NSMABAAOTWMODAACOTIATW though.

The best thing about Andrew's current site is its 404 page: http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/comebackwayneallisforgiven or any other unlikely URL.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby Fenrisco » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:06 pm

I was also idly wondering recently whether we receive the Sisters' Body Electric via Ray Bradbury, Walt Whitman, or the Twilight Zone.

I am inclined to go for a rather nauseated reading of Whitman:

A woman's body at auction,
She too is not only herself, she is the teeming mother of mothers,
She is the bearer of them that shall grow and be mates to the mothers.

Have you ever loved the body of a woman?
Have you ever loved the body of a man?
Do you not see that these are exactly the same to all in all nations
and times all over the earth?

If any thing is sacred the human body is sacred,
And the glory and sweet of a man is the token of manhood untainted,
And in man or woman a clean, strong, firm-fibred body, is more
beautiful than the most beautiful face.

Have you seen the fool that corrupted his own live body? or the fool
that corrupted her own live body?
For they do not conceal themselves, and cannot conceal themselves.


I suspect that if Bradbury was an inspiration we would have an Illustrated Man on Overbombing.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby rdkll » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:54 am

no goth discussion is complete without a "rozz williams vs. valor kand" debate.

we're waiting.
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Re: Are you this guy?

Postby Fenrisco » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:20 pm

I was taught never to speak ill of the Christian Dead... My old Glasgow crony John Collins is your man for Williams ephemera:

http://truecultheavymetal.com/index.php/dominion/2011/02/28/interview-john-collins-on-rozz-williams-the-lost-recordings
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