So Britain cannot deport people

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Re: So Britain cannot deport people

Postby nowonmai » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:17 am

Amat_victoria_curam wrote:My bad, I just had a final exam in international law in crisis and conflict covering these questions and pathetically thought I would actually get some interesting viewpoints. Clearly I was fucking wrong.

Yeah, I don't post much, I'm mainly a reader (except when I've got the time) but am on to something if I say that you just accused me of being Penta in disguise? Is that on account of pointing out that the current judicial human rights systems are seriously flawed? In that case you are mistaking an observation for a political opinion. I'm in security politics, I don't have to mean what I say.


No, no, no and again no. You have it all wrong. Let's recap:

1. I'm sorry. I was being a tit - alcohol induced but a tit nevertheless. I think this is my first online apology. Hold the front page.
2. The Penta red herring is designed to take the piss out of me getting wound up because I invoked the 'C' word. No one is suggesting you are Penta.

In short - you made a perfectly reasonable and educated intervention. I shortcircuited any sensible discussion by calling you a cunt - which as an observer of BFC culture you should realise is practically a term of affection. A few people in the bleachers tittered at me for doing so and invoked the ghost of Penta (which by the way Mikeymike misses the point that I wound her up more than she wound me up, and anyway, who is still standing?)

Wait, I just read that you're in politics... I take back my apology. Nah, you can still have it.

On the matter in hand I do not agree that any organization should impose its norms and values and laws over the laws enshrined by a nation. That is the gateway to totalitarianism. Separation of the executive and the judiciary should be a national, not supra-national issue.
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Re: So Britain cannot deport people

Postby Amat_victoria_curam » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:18 am

Amat_victoria_curam wrote:No, no, no and again no. You have it all wrong. Let's recap:

1. I'm sorry. I was being a tit - alcohol induced but a tit nevertheless. I think this is my first online apology. Hold the front page.
2. The Penta red herring is designed to take the piss out of me getting wound up because I invoked the 'C' word. No one is suggesting you are Penta.

In short - you made a perfectly reasonable and educated intervention. I shortcircuited any sensible discussion by calling you a cunt - which as an observer of BFC culture you should realise is practically a term of affection. A few people in the bleachers tittered at me for doing so and invoked the ghost of Penta (which by the way Mikeymike misses the point that I wound her up more than she wound me up, and anyway, who is still standing?)

Wait, I just read that you're in politics... I take back my apology. Nah, you can still have it.


1. All right, apology humbly accepted.

2. 'C' word of affection also humbly accpeted.

nowonmai wrote:On the matter in hand I do not agree that any organization should impose its norms and values and laws over the laws enshrined by a nation. That is the gateway to totalitarianism. Separation of the executive and the judiciary should be a national, not supra-national issue.


On the matter at hand I agree. Although the ECHR is a bad joke which everyone breaks, the only supranational judicial organizations of any weight that are left are basically the ICJ and the ICC, and the ICJ is not a problem if you're a member of the Security Council (Take the Nicaragua case for example) and if you're dumb enough to be a part of the ICC, you can always "unsign" it when you start suspecting that the sh*t's about to hit the fan, the Dubyah way. But yeah, democracy is getting eaten up from the top and the EU is about to become a Federal State run by someone who isn't democratically elected. This new "financial pact" is another big building block, the EEAS (European External Action Service) is another one, the Eurocorps is yet another one. The downsizing and professionalizing of all European militaries, making a common defence necessary is the final block before we all get the same passports.
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Re: So Britain cannot deport people

Postby Jefe » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:22 pm

On the bright side of all this, Nowonmai can not be deported. The UK, nor the BFC would ever be the same without him!

As for the rest of this, I agree with Reagan, the less government, the better.
CROTALUS: Jefe, I thought your Penta avatar was pretty brilliant, not nearly as offensive as the liberal new age hippy bullshit she constantly spews. Keep up the fight!
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