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Kurt wrote:The more I read about the guy the more I am convinced people may have either intentionally or unintentionally taken advantage of a vulnerable person.
seektravelinfo wrote:Kurt wrote:The more I read about the guy the more I am convinced people may have either intentionally or unintentionally taken advantage of a vulnerable person.
Yes, I think so. There were all sorts of bells, whistles and warnings yet they still just kept sending him back to his desk and his computer. There he was, throwing tantrums, curling up in fetal positions in the office, punching female co-workers in the face and they didn't know what to do about him so they pretended everything about him was all A-OK up to the point in which he outed shit to Assange. Why didn't anyone come out and say that perhaps not a good idea to let him at all that classified information? It just shows a great failure of leadership from the top down.
Kurt wrote:seektravelinfo wrote:Kurt wrote:The more I read about the guy the more I am convinced people may have either intentionally or unintentionally taken advantage of a vulnerable person.
Yes, I think so. There were all sorts of bells, whistles and warnings yet they still just kept sending him back to his desk and his computer. There he was, throwing tantrums, curling up in fetal positions in the office, punching female co-workers in the face and they didn't know what to do about him so they pretended everything about him was all A-OK up to the point in which he outed shit to Assange. Why didn't anyone come out and say that perhaps not a good idea to let him at all that classified information? It just shows a great failure of leadership from the top down.
Dunno if it was the legacy of Don't Ask Don't Tell or what since I am not familiar at all with military matters but I think both Manning and Snowden showed that the government had, and probably still has, a serious gap in filtering out who should handle intelligence.
On a related note, I got an e-mail from a recruiter offering me a job at a base on a Hawaiian Moutaintop where I was told it paid well but I would be sequestered with minimal provisions for weeks at a time.
Anyone who would send an e-mail out to just anyone (like me...I would not hire me based on my profile) for what was essentially a Snowden type job shows that the faults are still there and they believe they can fight them with long prison terms.
Kurt wrote:Also it would not surprise me to find out that someone, or perhaps Manning himself, thought that military discipline was the way to correct his problems. The military also should never be viewed as a therapist or a corrective measure as this would debase both military and civilian life.
That Manning dude would have been much better off going to a large, liberal town with rainbow flags outside of cafes and bars and meeting gays, transgender and tolerant straights. There was a reason why open Homosexuals in the Soviet Union were all employed as honeytraps..most were not even a sexual nature either, just someone who said they "understood".
Lots of people let Manning down.
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