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Tarkan wrote:See, this is the problem with the left. They appropriate terms and distort them to their own ends.
For example, nothing wrong conceptually with "black lives matter", "liberal", or being "anti-fascist".
But Black Lives Matter is a Marxist front group pushing mostly horrible policies - for black and non-black Americans alike.
Communists and socialists got a bad name after WW2 for basically being the agents and/or pawns of the Soviet Union so they started calling themselves liberal since that was a laudable association in the US at the time.
Antifa the not-organization that seems very adept at organizing riots is composed of a bunch of militant anarchists and communists that pretty much reject wholesale the entire US economic and political system and they demonstrate this over and over by violently disrupting speeches by people they don't like, disrupting assemblies and rallies on the right by mob attacking the attendees, and more recently engaging in continuous rioting in multiple cities. Their primary tactics and tools are the very same which proto-fascists used - violence and intimidation on the streets, blacklisting and banishment in the workforce and academia.
So yeah, an old WW2 vet that was bombing Nazis is not fighting the same fight as 3 ex-cons trying to torch a used car dealership and stomp to death a 17 year old Trump supporter even if they all call themselves anti-fascist.
ROB wrote:Tarkan wrote:See, this is the problem with the left. They appropriate terms and distort them to their own ends.
For example, nothing wrong conceptually with "black lives matter", "liberal", or being "anti-fascist".
But Black Lives Matter is a Marxist front group pushing mostly horrible policies - for black and non-black Americans alike.
Communists and socialists got a bad name after WW2 for basically being the agents and/or pawns of the Soviet Union so they started calling themselves liberal since that was a laudable association in the US at the time.
Antifa the not-organization that seems very adept at organizing riots is composed of a bunch of militant anarchists and communists that pretty much reject wholesale the entire US economic and political system and they demonstrate this over and over by violently disrupting speeches by people they don't like, disrupting assemblies and rallies on the right by mob attacking the attendees, and more recently engaging in continuous rioting in multiple cities. Their primary tactics and tools are the very same which proto-fascists used - violence and intimidation on the streets, blacklisting and banishment in the workforce and academia.
So yeah, an old WW2 vet that was bombing Nazis is not fighting the same fight as 3 ex-cons trying to torch a used car dealership and stomp to death a 17 year old Trump supporter even if they all call themselves anti-fascist.
So to demonstrate that I support the state seizing the means of production, I need to interrupt a speech about how Kaitlin Jenner is really a man.
Makes perfect sense.
See, this is the problem with the left. They appropriate terms and distort them to their own ends.
Tarkan wrote:See, this is the problem with the left. They appropriate terms and distort them to their own ends.
Kurt wrote:Sorry, I am cleaning coffee on my screen and keyboard because I did a spit take all over the place when I read this.
ROB wrote:Kurt wrote:Sorry, I am cleaning coffee on my screen and keyboard because I did a spit take all over the place when I read this.
That’s because you’re a communist!
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