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seektravelinfo wrote:ReptilianKittenEater wrote:Not my country but I thought it was kinda dumb of the Dems to turn him into some sort of a martyr. But then I got it, they are not doing this to go after Trump but to turn the screws on the GOP.
It so totally is not about that. It’s about nipping this shit in the bud. After what happened, you can’t just shake your head and go tsk-tsk. Hence, impeachment to be followed by a conviction. It’s all on the up and up, and one of the biggest drivers is Mitch McConnell (R).
I'd agree if this was referring to 2015-2016 Trump. Big part of the reason why he got nominated and elected IMO.Tarkan wrote: No, it's about the establishment punishing any outsider with the temerity to challenge the system.
el3so wrote:I'd agree if this was referring to 2015-2016 Trump. Big part of the reason why he got nominated and elected IMO.Tarkan wrote: No, it's about the establishment punishing any outsider with the temerity to challenge the system.
By this time, it's become an emperor's new clothes situation. Cut your losses, Tarkan. The orange man is a con artist with a loud mouth.
Tarkan wrote:el3so wrote:I'd agree if this was referring to 2015-2016 Trump. Big part of the reason why he got nominated and elected IMO.Tarkan wrote: No, it's about the establishment punishing any outsider with the temerity to challenge the system.
By this time, it's become an emperor's new clothes situation. Cut your losses, Tarkan. The orange man is a con artist with a loud mouth.
I know he's a con artist with a loud mouth.
What makes you think the Democrats care about going after con artists?
You think Biden isn't corrupt as hell and also a con artist? Or that Obama wasn't?
Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:el3so wrote:I'd agree if this was referring to 2015-2016 Trump. Big part of the reason why he got nominated and elected IMO.Tarkan wrote: No, it's about the establishment punishing any outsider with the temerity to challenge the system.
By this time, it's become an emperor's new clothes situation. Cut your losses, Tarkan. The orange man is a con artist with a loud mouth.
I know he's a con artist with a loud mouth.
What makes you think the Democrats care about going after con artists?
You think Biden isn't corrupt as hell and also a con artist? Or that Obama wasn't?
They are both center right politicians pretending to be center left politicians. So yah, they pulled one over on alot of people.
But that is pretty piddling compared to what is looking like an organized effort to "remove" elected representatives to replace a winner with the loser in the presidential race.
Tarkan wrote:
Oh so now the Democrats care about efforts of removing elected representatives. Because, I mean, that's what they did for the last 4 years with Trump. But suddenly when the tables are flipped, it's treason.
Kurt wrote:Tarkan wrote:
Oh so now the Democrats care about efforts of removing elected representatives. Because, I mean, that's what they did for the last 4 years with Trump. But suddenly when the tables are flipped, it's treason.
Well, obviously they did not try hard enough.
But you know...Trump's crimes and all that. Trying to get Ukraine to cooperate in thwarting a US election. Now using force to try to thwart an election.
Your moral equivalency arguments seriously lack introspection.
Kurt wrote:As with everything you mention about this incident and the ones leading up to it there is more speculation than evidence.
Lets ay Hunter Biden is an unregistered foreign agent. Then put him in jail and fine him.
You had the chance. Trump had the Seat, Senate, House and Supreme court. If you had a leg to stand on Hunter would be in jail or fined and prohibited from lobyying.
But, Trump tried a coup. An actual Coup. ...and suddenly people who go "holy shit, we cannot have this" are now planning re-education camps cuz twitter bans people.
Pretty much for about 17 years, since the War on Terror even Democrats who supported the war had to put up with:
OUR SIDE HAS THE GUNS!
SEND THEM TO GITMO!
HELICOPTER RIDE!
Over 100 attacks by automobiles this spring and summer.
Then suddenly we say "Now we are gonna take you seriously as a threat."
and you all are like "Wahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! No FAIR!!"
Then inbetween tears you still manage to slip in a threat like "This is how you get a civil war" (even though about 12% of the US population actually declared Civil War on January 6th).
So if we keep on reacting to the stuff your side is doing your side is going to do the kind of stuff we reacted to in the first place? I think it would be wiser to approach things from terms of negotiation rather than threats. But 17 years of wagging dicks and talking about whose side has what kind of guns is a hard habit to break, even though it clearly did not work.
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